Hi all,
A new day, new information and... and new project.
Planning to assemble a large scale wooden, or mixed media, replica of the RMS Tayluer which, on her maiden voyage, shipwrecked in 1854 with a loss of around 400 souls.
Tragic, and, this one is personal.
Any suggestions on a starting point, etc. etc. greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Murray.
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A new day, new information and... and new project.
Planning to assemble a large scale wooden, or mixed media, replica of the RMS Tayluer which, on her maiden voyage, shipwrecked in 1854 with a loss of around 400 souls.
Tragic, and, this one is personal.
Any suggestions on a starting point, etc. etc. greatly appreciated.
Hi Murray,
Congratulations on your choice—it’s a beautiful ship, a full-rigged vessel, a real classic.
So much for the positives: it’s a ship with a significant history and great beauty, and it holds deep sentimental value for you, so you have my full interest—and I believe that of all of us—in this new build.
Now for the inevitable questions, as this is a very challenging model:
Will it be a static display model, or have you even considered making it RC?
Have you decided on a specific scale?
Is there a model manufacturer that produces the kit or sells the construction plans?
OK, so as my first ship build, R/C and all its, I assume, ballast, etc. etc. issues can wait for another time... so, it will be a static display model. Possibly a diorama given the proximity to known land at point of collision. But, that will depend on the ultimate choice of scale.
Scale will be large if I can find the right plans and/or kit. I liked the look of the 1/80th scale AMIA Cutty Sark I plan to use as a base for the future build of The Palmyra, so something around that I think.
Model or Kit???
Ummm, I'm getting a 3D printer in a few months and it can slice, print and stitch fairly large objects into 250mmx250mmx250mm sub-objects in a large range of base material filaments, so I may end-up resorting to converting original plans, if available, into printable chunks, at least for the hull and, what I consider to be, the superstructure.
I'm not sure tbh.
Given the original was an iron hull, rough printed plastic could well resemble painted iron quite closely at the right scale. With the correct filament colour painting may not even be necessary, again for the hull.
But, then, I dunno, 3D printers are clever, but pretty average still when it comes to finer things like window frames etc.
I dunno, but I do know its 02:30 here and I have a bed waiting...
For those interested, this short extract from a media story provides chilling insights into a tragic event.
+"... Tayleur left Liverpool on 19 January 1854, on her maiden voyage, for Melbourne, Australia, with a
complement of 652 passengers and crew. She was commanded by 29-year-old Captain John Noble.
During the inquiry, it was determined that her crew of 71 had only 37 trained seamen amongst
them, and of these, 10 could not speak English. It was reported in newspaper accounts that many of the crew
were seeking free passage to Australia. Most of the crew were able to survive.
Her compasses did not work properly because of the Iron Hull. The crew believed that they were sailing
south through the Irish Sea, but were actually travelling west towards Ireland. On 21 January 1854, within 48
hours of sailing, Tayleur found herself in a fog and a storm, heading straight for the isle of Lambay. The
rudder was undersized for her tonnage, so that she was unable to tack around the island.
The rigging was also faulty; the ropes had not been properly stretched, so that they became slack, making it nearly impossible to
control the sails. Despite dropping both anchors as soon as rocks were sighted, she ran aground on the east
coast of Lambay Island, about 5 miles from Dublin Bay..."+
58 years later, the same company, The White Star Line, lost The Titanic, also on a maiden voyage.
There's more of the article attached to the Build Blog for further reading.
And, in a strange coincidence, 5 years earlier, my other gggGreat Grandmother was 'transported' to Van Diemans Land on The Earl Grey.... from Dublin Bay.
È andato tutto a rotoli, amico mio.
Extract from an article summarising the events on and leading-up to the night of the shipwreck.
For those interested, this short extract from a media story provides chilling insights into a tragic event.
+"... Tayleur left Liverpool on 19 January 1854, on her maiden voyage, for Melbourne, Australia, with a
complement of 652 passengers and crew. She was commanded by 29-year-old Captain John Noble.
During the inquiry, it was determined that her crew of 71 had only 37 trained seamen amongst
them, and of these, 10 could not speak English. It was reported in newspaper accounts that many of the crew
were seeking free passage to Australia. Most of the crew were able to survive.
Her compasses did not work properly because of the Iron Hull. The crew believed that they were sailing
south through the Irish Sea, but were actually travelling west towards Ireland. On 21 January 1854, within 48
hours of sailing, Tayleur found herself in a fog and a storm, heading straight for the isle of Lambay. The
rudder was undersized for her tonnage, so that she was unable to tack around the island.
The rigging was also faulty; the ropes had not been properly stretched, so that they became slack, making it nearly impossible to
control the sails. Despite dropping both anchors as soon as rocks were sighted, she ran aground on the east
coast of Lambay Island, about 5 miles from Dublin Bay..."+
58 years later, the same company, The White Star Line, lost The Titanic, also on a maiden voyage.
There's more of the article attached to the Build Blog for further reading.
And, in a strange coincidence, 5 years earlier, my other gggGreat Grandmother was 'transported' to Van Diemans Land on The Earl Grey.... from Dublin Bay.
Congratulations on your choice—it’s a beautiful ship, a full-rigged vessel, a real classic.
So much for the positives: it’s a ship with a significant history and great beauty, and it holds deep sentimental value for you, so you have my full interest—and I believe that of all of us—in this new build.
Now for the inevitable questions, as this is a very challenging model:
Will it be a static display model, or have you even considered making it RC?
Have you decided on a specific scale?
Is there a model manufacturer that produces the kit or sells the construction plans?
Thank you Alessandro.
Yeah, questions questions ...
OK, so as my first ship build, R/C and all its, I assume, ballast, etc. etc. issues can wait for another time... so, it will be a static display model. Possibly a diorama given the proximity to known land at point of collision. But, that will depend on the ultimate choice of scale.
Scale will be large if I can find the right plans and/or kit. I liked the look of the 1/80th scale AMIA Cutty Sark I plan to use as a base for the future build of The Palmyra, so something around that I think.
Model or Kit???
Ummm, I'm getting a 3D printer in a few months and it can slice, print and stitch fairly large objects into 250mmx250mmx250mm sub-objects in a large range of base material filaments, so I may end-up resorting to converting original plans, if available, into printable chunks, at least for the hull and, what I consider to be, the superstructure.
I'm not sure tbh.
Given the original was an iron hull, rough printed plastic could well resemble painted iron quite closely at the right scale. With the correct filament colour painting may not even be necessary, again for the hull.
But, then, I dunno, 3D printers are clever, but pretty average still when it comes to finer things like window frames etc.
I dunno, but I do know its 02:30 here and I have a bed waiting...
So, ciao.
Cheers.