OK. Look forward to the 2.4 info with interest.👍
For starters; what makes are they?
"they are from some of the other boats I have, at present I have 1 set up for each boat."
OKaay. Do they all work OK with their 'respective' boats?
If so then it looks like there may be summat wrong with the Commander setup.🤔
Cheers, Doug

I'll have to think about the offer Doug, as they are from some of the other boats I have, at present I have 1 set up for each boat.
But I have recently acquired some new 2.4GHz sets. Just need to get my head round how to get a single transmitter to operate different receivers, as I have 6 extra receivers but not sure if they are compatible.
Will have to let you know what I have, as I haven't had a good look at what came in the box yet. (Came from free cycle).
Cheers Colin.

"Switching the 40mhz set up on and triggering the mike gives weird servo movements."
Not really surprised at that Colin, if you fired up a 5 to 25W CB set in the same room!
Pressing the mike tit can also produce a sharp 'click' pulse which is transmitted by cheap CB sets and the like. This is suppressed in more expensive professional sets.
Also typical for CB type SSB TXs when you trigger the mic the build up of the RF output can be unstable and all sorts of spurious is generated.
Nevertheless the power output of your CB set could easily overwhelm the RC receiver anyway.
Whatever; fit the 2.4Gig set (or the 27Meg if you want to stay vintage👍) and Go Go Go😊
Maybe we can do a trade for the 40Meg set? I still use 'em with my subs😁
Cheers, Doug 😎

Thinking back, I had similar problems with my big tug last year, and no one else was on 40mhz that day but boat kept turning and reversing all on its own whilst I was trying to set a straight course at medium forward throttle.
Cheers Colin.

Hi Doug,
Have tried all four of my 40mhz fm handsets and 3 different receivers and get the same result on all sets.
No problem with 27mhz fm and am.
Also clear on 2.4GHz. Just tried my old 1970's cb 40mhz am/fm sidebander and getting a lot of broadband interference. Switching the 40mhz set up on and triggering the mike gives weird servo movements.
Cheers Colin.

"The motor is the Taycol you rebuilt for me."
Still with the suppressor caps I trust!
Sounds like you may have a problem with that 40Meg set.
Try using two entirely different channels.
That might confirm that the one you used for rudder then throttle has a problem.
Cheers, Doug 😎
BTW: How was the RX antenna installed? Length?
Separate RX battery or BEC? BECs can sometimes cause such problems by conducted EMI along the wiring🤔

Hi Doug, thanks for the reply, I tried swapping the channel but then the throttle played up.
I even changed the crystals. And handsets.
But all 40mhz fm frequencies played up.
Tried the 27mhz set from my big launch and no problems.
So I'll put the 2.4GHz set in.
The motor is the taycol you rebuilt for me.
Cheers Colin.

Hi Colin,
No worries!
Servos don't care or even know what the RX is up to whatever the frequency band😊
All it wants is the usual pulse train that the RXs spit out.
Re the interference:
I trust all brushed motors in the boat are properly suppressed?
Try the servo in a different RX port.
Also make sure that the rudder servo (and RX😉) is as far away from the motor, ESC and power wiring as possible.
Last resorts; ferrite rings on the servo and ESC signal wires and/or twisted cable instead of the standard flat cables.
What do your neighbours get up to then that might interfere?😮🙈
Cheers, Doug 😎

Have now given it a 3rd coat, looks like it will be enough, I will have to wait until tomorrow to check. I have also painted the steering wheel, and varnished the dashboard and scuttle.
When it is hard enough I will mask the deck and hull so I can prime the cabin sides and top.
The removable roofs can also be primed and painted.
By the way Doug, as I now have some 2.4GHz sets I think I will use one instead of the 40mhz sets, I was testing my set up and found something was interfering with the steering channel??? (could be my neighbours at the camp). Do I need to buy a new servo or will it be okay with the old original.
Cheers Colin.

Nice to see you are making progress Colin.
Keep up the good work.

Martin555.

Poundland Hereford is now out of bond together, I bought the lot.
So started back on the modelling again this afternoon.
Finished the cockpit windscreen frames, fitted the dashboard and steering wheel support, cleaned up the decks using cellulose thinners and removed 60 years of grime, and put the first coat of varnish on the deck.
Will be putting at least 3 more coats of varnish before I paint the cabins and roofs.
Have decided to sort out the electrical and radio side while the varnish is drying, it needs at least 16 hours between coats, so 1 coat each day.
I also have to fit the steering servo and mount.
Cheers Colin.

Dear Nerys,
I'm sorry that I haven't mentioned Caroline's foot problems but with all that's been happening I forgot.
It seems that with this latest problem she has been coping very well and she is almost back to normal. Still some pain but she ignored it while helping with the granddaughter.
She thanks you for your concern and wishes you and Alice all the best, stay safe and well, Colin and Caroline.

Whilst having every sympathy for your grandson Colin, can I ask after your wife, it's not long since she was ill? Hope she has recovered well enough to cope whilst everything else has been going on.
If you are going to be seeing your grandson a fair amount before too long, why not get him started on a modelling project of his own rather than relying on the school. Even with a fairly simple model you would be able to teach him the proper way to use real tools. I know my son found it invaluable later on, when he started an apprenticeship, that he had been using proper woodworking tools from an early age. I say this not knowing what sort of tools he is allowed to use in school. My sister, a former teacher, tells the story of how she complained that the scissors issued to her class for craft work wouldn't cut and she was told that they couldn't let children have scissors that cut in case they cut themselves.
I think it's called elf and safety pins or something.

All the best, Nerys

Thanks Doug,
Biggest problem is that he is 30 miles away from me. I expect to be able to see him once a week until the doctors say he is able to come and stay with me and Caroline.
Cheers Colin.
BTW. My fireboat kit is a Norstar kit, it's been sitting in the attic for 25 years, can't remember when it was purchased, but I think about 1970.

I feel sorry for your grandson, at least you have until October to teach him some model making. LOL!

Martin555.

Thanks Doug,
Grandson's progress is going well, but he is upset as the doctors told him that he can't go to school till at least October. Also he can't play his usual games outside and must stay off the trampoline.
He must not put any weight on the injured leg for at least 6 weeks. No bike riding, no football and all the other stuff kids enjoy.
We will have to ask the school for an update on the boat as I've been out of contact since October.
But will definitely be checking the progress and reporting back.
We have just had a full day with the family and I can now stop worrying about him and get back to the modelling.
Thank you and all the other members who have sent me such encouraging messages.
Cheers Colin and Caroline.

"I also have a vintage kit of a 34" fireboat that I started and shelved 30+ years ago and would like to finish with him helping.."
Now THAT'S a great idea Colin - hold that thought👍
Looking forward to the next report (if at all possible❄️🙄) on the school design-a-boat project👍
All the best to 'The 2 Cs' and assorted descendants!
Cheers, Doug 😎

I hope it lasts as long as me so I can pass on my models to my grandson. As we have models that span 3 generations upto me and would like to think that 4 or 5 generations is possible.
I have models that were built by my grandfather, father and me, my son has a couple that he built and my grandson is involved with the model at his school.
I also have a vintage kit of a 34" fireboat that I started and shelved 30+ years ago and would like to finish with him helping..
Cheers Colin.

You can have them back if you like Nerys😂

"Perhaps they were self dissolving or something."
It's all part of
The Great Planned Obsolescence Conspiracy Nerys.
Anything you stick together with them is planned to come apart again after 6 months.😮
Thus forcing you to buy more glue to stick 'em back together again.😠
BTW: NEVER use glue Activator or Accelerator! That just shortens the holding time to 3 months. Then instead of dissolving the glue goes brittle and falls apart.🤔
😁😎

They've disappeared from my post now, Doug. Perhaps they were self dissolving or something.

Nerys

" So, the mystery of the appearing from nowhere glues is solved, they're yours but it is still a mystery how they arrived on my post."
Mystery pictures!? WHAT mystery pictures?? 😁😉
😎
PS Anyone else need some cheap glues? They fell off the back of a Post😁😂

Nerys / Colin
Thank you for the information. I am from the States and a little slow sometimes....oh, I get it Poundland, like our DollarStores!
Joe😉

Shhhh, so do I, such good value and tasty too.
Cheers Colin.

Colin. Very pleased to hear the good news about your grandson. So, the mystery of the appearing from nowhere glues is solved, they're yours but it is still a mystery how they arrived on my post.
I buy the Bond Together in quantity too, depending on their stock, usually clearing the shelf. Can't be bothered going into Poundland too often despite the fact I like their boxes of Turkish Delight.

Best wishes, Nerys

Hi Nerys, the pictures are mine, I wonder how it happened.
I see you know the glue from poundland, I usually buy 10 at a time as I hate travelling into the town.
It would be great if you could get it online.
The other glues apart from the industrial araldite were bought for me while we were in lockdown.
BTW. I collected my grandson from the hospital this afternoon and took him home, the physio told him as soon as he could walk up and down the ward with his crutches he could go home, it was great to see him smiling again. I treated him to a big Lego star wars set for being so brave.
He said now that he has his bionic leg we can form a club, as both grandads have bionic knee replacements.
Cheers Colin.

Here are some of the glues I use. The one I prefer isn't pictured as the last empty one went in the bin. It's called bond together and it's only available in poundland shops. Another poundland one is the Tommy Walsh one.
The rest are expensive especially the self mixing types.
The last one is £18 if bought singley. But I used to get bulk packs through my old works. Hope that helps, the bond together makes the best portholes.
Cheers Colin.
PS. The pictures are in reverse order.

Joe, the epoxy is called Bond Together. I imagine it is only available in Poundland and you'll never guess, it costs £1.

Edit. The pictures of other epoxy glues appeared on my post, nothing to do with me.

Nerys

Colin,
That's a great tip about the portholes, certainly beats fiddling around with punched circles of clear plastic, which is what I do at the moment!
Ian

Hello,
What brand name is this glue?
I'm always looking for a less expensive alternative.
Joe

That's right Nerys,
It's my preferred glue, better than a lot of the expensive brand names, the only other 2pack epoxy glue that works as well is industrial araldite.
It is great for glazing port holes, I lay the port hole frames on stretched cling film and dribble the mixed glue into the opening and leave it to set, lift off from the film and I have perfectly clear glazed port holes. Works well with brass, plastic, white metal and wood.
Cheers Colin.

Colin, when you say 'the Poundland glue', do you mean their two part epoxy ? I've been using that for a while, certainly saves money and it's as good as, if not better than some others. The only snag with it I find, is that with my arthritic fingers, it's difficult to squeeze out, needs a lot of pressure pushing down on a board. How do you get on?
Pleased to hear the good news about your grandson by the way.

Best wishes, Nerys

"I am about to try making the bridge windscreen frames and support using 25mm x 3mm mahogany strips salvaged from a slatted screen."
Looking forward to that Colin👍
So I can copy it for my Sea Scout😁
ATB to All, Doug 😎

That's good news for all.
Rick

Thanks Doug, you probably could have sailed the North Sea on my relief.
Just got to get some balsa and more 1.5mm ply. Plus replenish my epoxy glue.
I had to try using expensive gorilla epoxy
as that was all I had been able to get.
It's not as good as the poundland glue and takes too long to set.
I am about to try making the bridge windscreen frames and support using 25mm x 3mm mahogany strips salvaged from a slatted screen.
Most of the replacement ply used in this refurb is recycled from whatever I was able to scrounge from neighbours.
At least with the lockdown everyone seems to be having a clearout.
Keep safe and well, Colin. 🤗

Good news Colin👍😊
Thought I'd heard a HUGE sigh of relief!
Good luck with the G&P🤞
Shops all shut here on Monday - Bank Holiday!
Cheers, Doug

Looks like I will be able to sleep normally tonight, grandsons operation went well and I am now waiting for himm to wake up and talk to us. The surgeon told us that if he responds to the physio instructions later today and tomorrow morning he will be able to come home tomorrow afternoon.
The bone has been sandwiched and pinned. No need for a cast, only a large dressing over the op.
Looking forward to seeing him and being able to visit him at home.
Thank you all for your support during my crisis, hopefully I'll be able to get on with the modelling on Monday as I am in need of more glue and paint, I think my local supplier is going to be opening Monday. I also need my wife back to help me with the finer detail work as my fingers are still not great.
Cheers Colin.

Thoughts with you and your grandson sounds as if he is in good spirits .You need to help him by getting a good nights sleep if you can.
Rick

Fingers crossed for the Op Colin🤞
Sleep tight😴
All the best to you all, Doug

Thank you all for your wonderful support, I think I will be able to sleep properly after he has his operation in the morning.
Just did a video call with him and he said that he would be very brave and tell me about it tomorrow.
His only worry is that his friends won't know what happened to him if he can't go to school on Monday.
I got his teacher to video call him and she told him that the class will do a video call on Tuesday.
So he's no longer stressed and managed to give me a smile.
Thanks again for all your support, now signing off and try to get some sleep.
May god bless you and keep you all safe.
Cheers Colin.

I'm shure hes in good hands Colin

Hope all is going well with your grandson, Colin, under the circumstances, you had no choice but to break the lockdown, though your rules are more lenient than those here in Wales.

All the best, Nerys

Sorry to hear about your grandson, in these circumstances you have no choice about breaking the lockdown rules.

Martin555.

Work on modelling was suspended yesterday due my grandson being rushed to hospital with a fractured femur. They are going to operate in the morning, pining it?. They waited for a senior surgeon to decide whether to do it in Hereford or send him to Birmingham children's hospital.
I had to say sod the lockdown to take the wife to help with the granddaughter as my son has to stay with the boy until he is discharged.
And the daughter in law has to care for her parents who are both disabled.
I have just got home to care for our animals and I am shattered. Will hopefully be back to it next week.
Cheers Colin.

Well I have to sort out which ones fill in the time gaps in my show display. (years made, not depicted).
Then I will list and photo all the non essential models with as honest a description as I can. If there's any interest then I will consider offers.
Any postage costs will be the only thing I take. The purchase price is for the RNLI.
Cheers Colin.

Thanks for the information, I will give them a call.
Mine also had acetate windows, but with the damage to the woodwork I will have to fit external frames to make it look nice.
It certainly improved my fireboat, see harbour.
Cheers Colin.

By the way Colin
My Sea Commander doesn't have frames just acetate sheet canopy glued on internally
The Sea Queen has frames

Try Jotika UK they were laser cutting the kit at one stage
+44 (0)1905 776 073
Good Luck Ian

Are you going to sell them on this site?

Colin 53 boats and counting, you must have a large house to keep them all in, so as long as you keep your wife in the West wing and the boats in the East wing you should be OK.😁

There's only a few would take on such a job Colin and I'm sure you will do a great job as usual