I agree. Not all boats and ships have power equipment. Even if as small as an IPhone, there are times when the phone discharges. And not all sailing craft have generators.
Replacing all charts with electronics is like trying to do away with model plans, just because their are plans on line, in my opinion.
I am sure there are systems that show a large scale projection of a ‘chart’ on a display screen, but I am sure the cost is prohibitive for most recreational boaters.
I agree. Not all boats and ships have power equipment. Even if as small as an IPhone, there are times when the phone discharges. And not all sailing craft have generators.
Replacing all charts with electronics is like trying to do away with model plans, just because their are plans on line, in my opinion.
I am sure there are systems that show a large scale projection of a ‘chart’ on a display screen, but I am sure the cost is prohibitive for most recreational boaters.
I'm old fashioned, I use a map when I'm going anywhere in the car, we have a satnav but have found from experience it can't be trusted and will often take one off on a wild goose chase doing far more miles than is necessary. Even today ,the satnav told us a place we were heading for was 150 miles away, when it was actually twelve. Mind you, it is very good at finding actual addresses in town.
I can imagine the navigating officer of a big ship being perfectly happy, and ninetynine times out of a hundred he will be fine, but there is that odd occasion when a look at a physical chart with all it's information, must be useful.
In my motor barging days when I knew the waters I frequented like the backs of my hands and could say with certainty something like "We'll pick up the Blacktail Spit (buoy) in fifteen minutes", I'd still have a chart open on the side. You can never be too sure.
cheers, Nerys
c
I'm old fashioned, I use a map when I'm going anywhere in the car, we have a satnav but have found from experience it can't be trusted and will often take one off on a wild goose chase doing far more miles than is necessary. Even today ,the satnav told us a place we were heading for was 150 miles away, when it was actually twelve. Mind you, it is very good at finding actual addresses in town.
I can imagine the navigating officer of a big ship being perfectly happy, and ninetynine times out of a hundred he will be fine, but there is that odd occasion when a look at a physical chart with all it's information, must be useful.
In my motor barging days when I knew the waters I frequented like the backs of my hands and could say with certainty something like "We'll pick up the Blacktail Spit (buoy) in fifteen minutes", I'd still have a chart open on the side. You can never be too sure.
cheers, Nerys
c
When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
Hi Nerys, totally agree, if that is entirely true it's a baffling decision. Whilst I fully understand how the majority of mariners are committed to use digital navigational aids there are occasions when instruments fail and if they do at sea out of sight of land celestial and sun navigation skills have to be used and that means having charts, not to mention the absolute necessity of inshore waters charts. I can only assume that the RN and Merchant Marine will always ensure a supply of up to date inshore water charts that record depths and current movement changes.
Hi Nerys, totally agree, if that is entirely true it's a baffling decision. Whilst I fully understand how the majority of mariners are committed to use digital navigational aids there are occasions when instruments fail and if they do at sea out of sight of land celestial and sun navigation skills have to be used and that means having charts, not to mention the absolute necessity of inshore waters charts. I can only assume that the RN and Merchant Marine will always ensure a supply of up to date inshore water charts that record depths and current movement changes.
I use sat navs in the cars and use a GPS device for walking but also use paper maps. Partly as a backup but also for planning the routes as you can see them more easily on a bigger map.
I use sat navs in the cars and use a GPS device for walking but also use paper maps. Partly as a backup but also for planning the routes as you can see them more easily on a bigger map.
Hi Nerys that's sad I remember doing parts of the Yachmaster course (never completed) and the chart and course plotting was very enjoyable.
I wonder how many remember that the name of the Corvette in the Cruel Sea was derived from the admiralty charts, 'Compass Rose' to be found in the corner of all the charts.
Must be great to be on a yacht with only modern equipment and all the batteries are dead!
regards
Roy
Hi Nerys that's sad I remember doing parts of the Yachmaster course (never completed) and the chart and course plotting was very enjoyable.
I wonder how many remember that the name of the Corvette in the Cruel Sea was derived from the admiralty charts, 'Compass Rose' to be found in the corner of all the charts.
Must be great to be on a yacht with only modern equipment and all the batteries are dead!
regards
Roy
Having paper charts is a necessity for those of us who can't afford expensive digital marine navigation equipment.
I recently tried various apps on my phone along the Welsh coast from Newquay to Shell Island and found a lot of blind areas with no signal, so glad of paper and local knowledge.
Cheers Colin.
Having paper charts is a necessity for those of us who can't afford expensive digital marine navigation equipment.
I recently tried various apps on my phone along the Welsh coast from Newquay to Shell Island and found a lot of blind areas with no signal, so glad of paper and local knowledge.
Cheers Colin.
Not a thing to concern modellers, but as a former mariner, I must say I think it very sad that the Hydrographic Office has announced that they will no longer produce paper navigation charts and navigators will have to rely purely on digital. So, what's next, virtual ships carrying virtual cargoes, on a virtual sea?
Or, at our level, building virtual models to sail on virtual lakes?
Nerys
Not a thing to concern modellers, but as a former mariner, I must say I think it very sad that the Hydrographic Office has announced that they will no longer produce paper navigation charts and navigators will have to rely purely on digital. So, what's next, virtual ships carrying virtual cargoes, on a virtual sea?
Or, at our level, building virtual models to sail on virtual lakes?
Nerys
When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind