Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

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#36

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

as you stated, just because it is listed and ships from Amazon it does not mean it is not a knock off. The quality may or not be good but if it is inferior you can send it back to them
LEN1
#35

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

I also ordered Hobbywing 1060's from Amazon (two of them).

A while back I ordered a set of "Futaba" servos on Amazon but they were knock off. (I did send a notice to Amazon and Futaba about trademark violations, but got no answers.) Funny though, all of the servos worked fine and were actually quieter!

Lew
Lew
Florida, USA
Home page: https://www.RCFlorida.org/lmb
#34

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Just checked Amazon they have the QuicRun 1060 for 21.99 with free shipping, and it’s legit as it ships from Hobbywing North America. There ARE a lot of knock offs and clones out there, but as long as it’s coming from Hobbywing it’s the real deal. The ones I’ve bought from Amazon are legitimate, not clones.
Cash
#33

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

That's a good price but after delivery the cost jumps up
#31

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

I'm online right now looking for two Hobbywing 1060 Brushed ESCs. After our model meet today I stopped by our local hobby shop and found they raised the price $(US)5 from $21.99 to $26.99.

So now I am searching Amazon, Ebay, etc. and have found a number of "knock-offs" for a few dollars cheaper and in some cases even more expensive. Hobbywing's MSRP is $(US)21.99.

So, the word is "caution" when buying these even when the ad says "Hobbywing". Check the photo.

Upper left (Fake)😠: The Ebay ad says"320A RC Car Hobbywing QuicRun 1060 60A Brushed ESC Electronic Speed Controller". The signal wire are plugged into the esc (on the real one they are hardwired.

Lower left (Fake)😠: Walmart online "Hobbywing Quicrun 1060 Brushed Esc Waterproof / Speed Control 1/10 Cars / Trucks R8D7". Look at the cooling fins (heatsink) the run perpendicular to the real ones. Even some of the power wires are different in color.

Right (Real)😊: From the Hobbywing web site.

This is only two instances that I noticed.

Lew
Lew
Florida, USA
Home page: https://www.RCFlorida.org/lmb
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#30

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

I have been using the 1060 brushed ESCs on all sorts of batteries for several years now. I have about 10 of them and they all work very well.

I have two Mtronics on one burned out (yeah, fire and smoke on the water). The Mtroniks has a slight advantage being it will run the motor with the prop barely moving to to point where the boat does not even move. The 1060 has a great slow speed where one can still watch the prop turn.

To me the 1060 has a big price advantage, last time I looked it was almost half the price (here in the U.S.) of the Mtroniks and that was comparing a 1060 60A versus a Mtroniks 20A.

I'm completely sold on the Quickrun 1060's.

Lew
Lew
Florida, USA
Home page: https://www.RCFlorida.org/lmb
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#29

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Did a little looking around and a guy on model boat mayhem said he’s used the QuicRun 1060 with sla batteries. Don’t know if he’s referring to 12 or 6 volt. I just looked at the specs and the 1060 is good for 5-9 nimh. The cutoff halves the output when available battery power falls below 4.5 volts and absolute shutoff is at 4 volts, so I would think a good 6 volt SLA would be fine.
Cash
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#28

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Rowen - True, I don't know why I said the voltage would be doubled, brain fade I think!
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#27

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

The instructions only mention LiPo and NiMH as the jumpers are used for setting the low voltage cut-off for each type.
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#26

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Does the hobbywing esc support sla or lifepo batteries. As that's all I use.
Cheers Colin.
Fair winds and calm waters,
COLIN.
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#25

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

The BEC Rx input sockets are in parallel not series.
#24

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

All sounds good.

Whilst I'm using HobbyWing ESCs in my own builds I did buy a ready built Club 500 with a brushed motor and Viper Marine ESC which was working Ok initially but after being tipped upside down a couple of times during racing I have an intermittent fault where the throttle and steering are reversed! Not the ESCs fault as it got wet but time to change for a Quicrun I think.

Chris
Scratch building 7 Faireys at a scale of 1:12
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#23

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Received my Quicrun 1060s this morning from Modelsport in Yorkshire. They gave the most competitive price and only took 2 days to arrive.
I have spent the afternoon fitting them after cutting one of the red wires. I have 8 channels working and so far so good!

Thanks for all your help and advice.

Ps When taking out the old Vipermarines I found I had in fact disconnected one of the red wires, so it couldn't have been that problem
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure?
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#22

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

I use Wheelspin Models for my HobbyWing Quicrun ESCs.

With ESCs the term not safe for LiPos, as I understand it, just means that a safe lower limit cut-off for LiPos can't be set. Volts are volts whatever the battery type! A separate low level battery warning unit could be used. Having said that I only use ESCs (mainly HobbyWing Quicrun and Seaking where you can set the low-level cut-off dependent on the battery type.

As far as the BEC goes you should cut one of the red wires otherwise the voltage will be doubled and the receiver won't like that! 🤕

Chris
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#21

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Errol the Feral, found him the backyard as a kitten. Took months to get him to trust me enough to get him to the vet, fixed and in the house. He’s standing watch in that pic, making sure the rabbits in the neighborhood aren’t up to something…
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#20

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Love your WatchCat!👍👍😍
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#18

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

They are also available from Aliexpress. The prices there are reasonable
Rowen
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#17

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Try fitting a fuse on the live lead to the motor's this will blow before the motor's or any other components draw to much current.
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#16

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Thanks for the suggestion but problem is shipping and taxes from the States almost amount to the cost of the item.
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#15

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Once again chaps, thank you for all your help.

I have looked at the Quicrun 1060 and 1625. As I am using 3s lipos the 1060 is the one I have ordered - I notice that the 1625 is only good for 2s.

I am using the Hobbywing brushless esc s in other boats with no trouble, so hopefully no more burn outs - and no more Mtronics!.
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure?
#14

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

There used to be a UK outlet in Essex(?) and one in either Belgium or more probably Holland, since Brexit I have used the Dutch outlet, the last time, about 6 weeks ago!
I'll check later, I realise the tax implications to Brits buying in Europe and vice versa!
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#13

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Hobbyking is no more in UK and most of Europe.
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#12

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

I use these items, and have sold lots to French modellers at various exhibitions etc.

They also do a 160 amp version which has a smaller cooling fin.

So far I have personally not had any problems, nor have I had any buyer returning for replacements, they can accommodate, by a simple switch, Lipo and NiMh battery packs.

If you shop around on ebay you may well find them on sale at a lower price.

I have just copied the first listing that I found!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144406806547?hash=item219f510013:g😃2MAAOSwGl9g-BEi&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8Bod9wvwLQa7qQf3H2oLgc6fUZKkmD5RBScIFmgLoNPS2PALG44UZCFoVf94FfWpP2DnF8K6NE2y5xnfK03zrSzjvKdg%2BAMiLaoCHqQ3OazHM%2FUPNHGInDQb%2FYCH3mjp023QkvQ7KPxeuNlAFqVPrWfSODcydnMBsUVLnI%2BlZLidQSQZBwrI3FXUzgK2bQuMMPNUMMQAzBIoRkxNm3xWg5iYXyedMHo1OsJlwCuI1nllZDoabx%2B5lPxgb36Vgx2xjlVebr05Psf%2BJNReVXnZxrBAcHXYmW41fxXbwY6gmWIYjIs23LKJGg1EvHTQnk9YaQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9603-nrYA
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#11

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

If you’re looking for the Hobbywing brushed escs, the QuicRun 1060 or 1625 is what you want. The 1060 is rated at 60 amp, the 1625 is 25 amps. They are easy to set up, using jumpers, and can handle nimh or lipo power. Amazon has the 1060 and 1625 in stock. Make sure you order the Hobbywing QuicRun, not just QuicRun, as there are clones out there, and Hobbywing stands by their products. I have several of them, and I also use their little 30 amp brushless escs in my smaller scale boats. Only flaw I have seen is the 1625 is a little picky about reversing, you need to make sure your throttle neutral is dead center. But, it’s a good, reliable little unit.
Cash
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#8

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Hi Rowen
I can only find 'Hobbywing 30A Brushed Speed Controller Eagle-30A'. Is this the one you mean?
The Hobbywing I am thinking about only seems to make brushless esc s.

Thanks

Steve
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure?
#7

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

The stink does dissipate over time, know from experience!

Now have several HobbyWing "QuikRun 30A" in service and have had no issues.

RN in Munich put me onto them - thanks Doug.
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#6

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Thanks for your observations chaps.
All was wired according to manufacturers instructions.
I had thought of removing one one of the red wires but considered it unnecessary - perhaps I should have done.
I didn't know that Mtronics were not lipo safe so it seems the solution is to change to the T10 range - thank you for the tip Rowen!
Any suggestion as to how to get rid of the most unpleasant stink?😀
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure?
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#5

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Had a similar problem two weeks ago, my Club 500 needed a new ESC as I had a spare Mtroniks 25 available, I decided to use that, I connected everything up and plugged in a 2500 ah 7.2 V Nimh battery, and clouds of white acrid smoke started pouring out on the ESC, quickly disconnected the battery, the case had melted a little, I phoned Mtroniks, but was on answer phone, left a message with my name and number, still waiting for a reply, last time I use an Mtroniks ESC.

Pete😊
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#4

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

Sounds like the problem I had a while ago.
The standard Mtroniks brushed ESCs are not LiPo safe and thus burn out. The T10 range is though.
Solved the problem by moving to Hobbywing ESCs that work with LiPos. Also more economical.
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#3

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

If you have 2 esc's each with a BEC perhaps they are fighting each other? Did you disconnect one of the red wires to the receiver?
regards
Roy
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#1

Mtronics Viper Marine 20 esc for brushed motors

One of my builds has two 600 brushed motors, each connected to the above esc and to separate 3s lipos.
The batteries were connected and the system switched on as was the Tx. The Rx was showing a green light indicating it was bound and the esc s were showing the correct lights.
Neither of the motors were turning.
Suddenly one of the esc s starting hissing and then produced clouds of white smoke. I was only able to stop this by disconnecting the battery (the on/off switch had no effect).
When the smoke had cleared I saw that the wiring and part of the case had melted.

I had exactly the same thing happen to another boat with 500 motors, wired in the same way and with the same esc s, about two years ago. I have since replaced the esc in this boat and it has been working ok ever since.

Has anyone had any similar problems?
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