It was a bit like asking how old I was on my 70th. birthday?

Roy

Well that was easy....


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Confused?was it a trick question this morning or am I missing something 🤔 😕. Plus side is I got it right ✅️

I answered this question which came up as correct! But this ship sank off Portsmouth when being rather badly repaired.
This is a strangely posed question though.

Roy

None of the above Icebreaker LENIN was 1st nuclear powered ship.
Cheers Colin.

I would never have thought to call a submarine a ship! To me a better name for a sub is a vessel😊

My research does not show any of these ships. Should the question have referred ro navel ships?
Austing

USS ( United States Ship ) Nautilus, SSN 571, was commission Sept 1954. Followed by USS Seawolf, SSN 575, in March 1957. These were the first two Nuclear powered vessels in the world.😊

Hi according to the I'net Nautilus 1955 was 4 years before Lenin 1959.

Roy

I think you are right Rockbag.
Preceding USS Long Beach in service by two years.
😎

I think it was the Icebreaker Lenin.
But of the answers quoted it would be the USS Nautilus.

Hi Nick,
Or His Majesty's Submarine?
In the USN they are named USS ... United States Ship or Submarine?
But referred to as Boats. Originally 'Pig Boats', coz they stank🙈😝
Perhaps 'first vessel' would have been better in the question?
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RN submarines are named HMS, Her Majesty's Ship...

If you just go by date this is OK. Not sure a sub is classed as a ship though?

Terry,
I believe you are correct to have misgivings, whatever you chose, as this is another 'None of the above question'🙄
Two options are obviously wrong, one is a sub and not a ship (they are referred to usually as 'boats'), and the remaining option is also wrong.
There was a nuclear powered cruiser which was ordered one year earlier, commenced building three months earlier and was commissioned three months earlier.
Happy guessing folks, it's basically down to 50/50 depending on interpretation of 'ship'.
Cheers, All, Doug

Even though I got it right am still unsure it was the right answer

As usual Doug you are correct, I hope I don't get demoted for my minor fopar.
Cheers Colin.

Hi Gary, Marky, the title of Question of the day has it's own undertones. Many of us including your good selves are coming to realise that the answers are also questionable. This is a whole new approach and concept in quizzes!

This is not Eggheads or the like, the discussion for us is challenging the answers!
In all a much more sophisticated idea and more interesting as well.
Rarely are we in agreement with the answers given, although a president was set when Titanic was the correct answer!

With Eggheads you get the feeling that Kevin checks the answers before the broadcast. On QoD we check the answers after the event.
Ask your self where do you learn more, the TV quizzes or our own QoD? Going down the middle does not work on our quiz, you have to decide whether the right answer is there first and then if not what does Joe Public think?

The scoring proceeds with the day's answer dropping off an answer 30 days old and counting in your answer of the day %. No such arrangement exists for the Country's score where a wrong answer haunts you forever.

QED ( for non-latin gentleman Quod Erat Demonstrandom, translated by schoolboys as Quite Easily Done)
Roy

T'other way round Colin,😉
Great Britain 1845, Servia 1881.
Great Britain is the best option here for 'the wrong'n deemed correct'🙄 as the other ships all came much later. Another 'None of the above' job.😐

Roy is dead right about the advent of steel mass production.
Starting when dear Henry patented his converter in 1856, some 10 years after the launch of Great Britain.
There was an interesting docu-film about the development and rivalries on History Channel a few years ago.
Cheers, Doug 😎

Confusing, as it couldn't possibly be Titanic again it had to be SS Great Britain even though it was made of iron and not steel. The true answer and you have a choice of two was either Servia or Arabic both launched in 1881.

shouldn't Servia have been on the list ,1881 if memory serves me right, Servia also the first liner with electric lighting .

None of the offered answers, ss great Britain was well after.
Servia was first steel hulled liner launched 1881.
Some earlier were iron clad not steel.
Cheers Colin.

RMS Queen Elizabeth met a similar fate to the Normandie in Hong Kong harbour, after conversion to the Seawise University, a venture bu HK buisnessman Tung Chao Yung she caught fire and was sunk by the weight of water used to extinguish the fires. The semi exposed wreck was used as a prop in the James Bond film The Man With The Golden Gun where it became a secret headquarters for MI6...

The SS Normandie is famous for being sunk by the New York fire department!

The SS United States was left to rot.

Was it a US iceberg that sank the Titanic? Now that is a good conspiracy theory.

Meanwhile SS GB is still earning money!

Just a thought,
Roy

I meant to add, great to see Titanic back!
Roy

I don't trust this answer! I think it was the first Iron hull but large quantities of steel were not possible until the Bessemer steel process which was after SS GB was built!

Is there a confusion between iron and steel here?

As an aside and having just written SS GB reminds me have you read the book by Len Deighton? In my top 10 books ever.

Roy

Hmm got that wrong as the SS Servia wasn't on the list which was the first major ocean liner made of steel

Out of curiosity, found this afterwards, correct me if I'm wrong

Got it right, but I too thought she was an Iron ship and not steel

Got it today, back on track..

I was thinking the same thing, “the ships log”. Had no idea there was an instrument called the log.
Oh well, glad it didn’t ask for the Stardate….😁

SS Great Britain was iron not steel.

Thanks Nick, an interesting read

47feet 3inches according to uncle Wiki Nick😉
"Origin
Until the mid-19th century, vessel speed at sea was measured using a chip log. This consisted of a wooden panel, attached by line to a reel, and weighted on one edge to float perpendicularly to the water surface and thus present substantial resistance to the water moving around it. The chip log was cast over the stern of the moving vessel and the line allowed to pay out.[6] Knots tied at a distance of 47 feet 3 inches (14.4018 m) from each other, passed through a sailor's fingers, while another sailor used a 30-second sand-glass (28-second sand-glass is the currently accepted timing) to time the operation.[7] The knot count would be reported and used in the sailing master's dead reckoning and navigation. This method gives a value for the knot of 20.25 in/s, or 1.85166 km/h. The difference from the modern definition is less than 0.02%.

Derivation of knots spacing:
1 kn = 1852 m/h = 0.5144 m/s so in 28 seconds that is 14.40 metres per knot. "

Colin: See the model, in the Paris Maritime Museum, in the Wiki Chip log link.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_(unit)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_log

You might need 1/12 scale 26 second 'egg timer'/hourglass as well...

Thanks Nick, I might try making a 12th scale model version for my show display.
Cheers Colin.

47 feet.

Nice information but doesn't give distance between knots.
Cheers Colin.

Abit of log info...
https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-42932#:~:text=The%20log%20and%20line%20was,introduced%20from%20the%2019th%20century.

Agreed Neil👍
That's also where the term 'knot' as unit of measure for a ship's speed comes from😉
Data Loggers aren't made of wood either 😁
Cheers All, Doug😎

Term comes from the lump of wood thrown over the side attached to a knotted line. Feeling the knots pass through the hand gave an indication of the ship’s speed

Items such as the towed Walker Log measured distance, easy to derive speed, s=d/t

With the introduction of the impeller log it was possible to have speed in real time.

Now the term log is used for Doppler, impeller or gps speed reading/recording devices.

Good luck with using a log to measure speed, it's a written record of events recorded by other instruments, is it not?
dave976

Missed that one today

First apologies, it is just the normal BBC weather forecasts are from MeteoGroup, the shipping forecast is still the Met Office.

Nice to see the list of areas, you will note they work their way around the coast around Ireland.

As some of you will also have done listening to the shipping forecast at night in a warm bunk with dodgy weather outside is something else. The last one at night had a very respectful way of refering to us as 'gentleman'. I seem to remember they ended with, "Goodnight gentlemen, everywhere".

I picked up enough in my learning days to look at the TV forecasts with computer graphics of swirling cloud and anti-cyclones coming across from the Atlantic.
Then there is the jet-stream an unkown to the Americans in 1944/5 when some B29 bomber crews said they were flying into wind with zero ground speed.

The Japanese knew about the jet-stream as they sent balloons with bombs to the USA. They managed to kill some scouts camping out for all their efforts.

The weather forecasts for the war period were analysed against the criteria of tomorrows weather will be like today. The forecasts overall were 49% correct, Hmm!
Another interesting question.
Roy

For those folk who are from other countrys, here is a list of UK sea areas and a map for context. If memory serves, the Shipping Forecast was aired 3 or 4 times daily. Still going now on long wave on BBC radio 4 at 11pm (2300), 5 am (0500) 11 am (1100) and 5 pm (1700). I noticed some names have been changed, UK changed Finisterre to Fitzroy as Spain also has a shipping area called Finisterre...
1 Viking,
2 North Utsire,
3 South Utsire,
4 Forties
5 Cromarty
6 Forth
7 Tyne
8 Dogger
9 Fisher
10 German Bight (formerly Heligoland Bight)
11 Humber
12 Thames
13 Dover
14 Wight
15 Portland
16 Plymouth
17 Biscay
18 Trafalgar
19 FitzRoy
20 Sole
21 Lundy
22 Fastnet
23 Irish Sea
24 Shannon
25 Rockall
26 Malin
27 Hebrides
28 Bailey
29 Fair Isle
30 Faeroes
31 Southeast Iceland
The areas are named after islands, sandbanks, river esturies and ports..

If I remember rightly back in the day the shipping forecast was 24/7 on AM or SW radio

The Shipping Forecast is broadcast on the BBC using information supplied by the Met Office on behalf of the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA). The BBC’s own Weather forecasts use data from the MeteoGroup.

The Met Office and MCA are UK Government agencies with this “free” service broadcast on the BBC.

OOps! On the basis that the BBC broadcasts the shipping forecast around the coast. The data is supplied by the MeteoGroup after it was put open to tender. The Met office no longer supply the BBC shipping forecast.

Although I got the answer required there was a niggle in my head and I checked up.

Roy

I’m not from the UK, but I got it right!! I’m gonna go buy a lottery ticket…🤣

I remember having to listen to the shipping forecast and having to fill in the numbers/pressures on the form/map with the different shipping areas in and then drawing in the isobars and deciding what was happening out at sea.

Not for real but part of some exams I was taking but never completed.
Roy