Stephen,
You really need to do something about today's question!
No way is a raised platform at the stern of a boat a 'cockpit'!!
Cockpit (WiKi disambiguation)
"Cockpit (sailing), an area below deck near the stern of a naval sailing ship."
"(nautical, now historical) The area set aside for junior officers including the ship's surgeon on a man-of-war, where the wounded were treated; the sickbay. [from 17th c.]
(nautical) A well, usually near the stern, where the helm is located. [from 18th c.]"
Doug.
https://swimplatforms.com/
Stephen,
You really need to do something about today's question!
No way is a raised platform at the stern of a boat a 'cockpit'!!
Cockpit (WiKi disambiguation)
"Cockpit (sailing), an area below deck near the stern of a naval sailing ship."
"(nautical, now historical) The area set aside for junior officers including the ship's surgeon on a man-of-war, where the wounded were treated; the sickbay. [from 17th c.]
(nautical) A well, usually near the stern, where the helm is located. [from 18th c.]"
Doug. https://swimplatforms.com/
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
This is getting a bit obscure now, never heard of the yacht and have little to no interest in who owns her and my blind guess was wrong.
Did anyone do my question of the day?
Roy
I answered David Geffen, because he is the only "previous" owner of the Pelorus. However the correct answer is Samuel Tak Lee.
So far my collection resembles "The Island of Misfit Toys". I've picked up several boats that are old builds and have been neglected. I'm giving them the TLC they need, hoping to bring them back to their former glory. Once I get enough practice/ experience I intend to take on a full build.
Hmmmm!
Another 'None of the above' question today (12.5.23.)🙄
Previous Superyacht questions (also None of the above) had prompted some intensive research on the subject.
The 'correct' answer for today was once the owner of Pelorus, but she has been through two other owners since.
She is currently up for sale once again for 185 million quid.
Running costs ca 15 to 20 million quid per annum.😮🤑
Any offers guys? 😁
Cheers, Doug😎
Hmmmm!
Another 'None of the above' question today (12.5.23.)🙄
Previous Superyacht questions (also None of the above) had prompted some intensive research on the subject.
The 'correct' answer for today was once the owner of Pelorus, but she has been through two other owners since.
She is currently up for sale once again for 185 million quid.
Running costs ca 15 to 20 million quid per annum.😮🤑
Any offers guys? 😁
Cheers, Doug😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Aah, Good old Mabel 😉 and poor old Rover🤔
I think any rugby, football, cricket player who ever travelled to games in a team coach will remember that one Roy!
Cheers, Doug 😎
Aah, Good old Mabel 😉 and poor old Rover🤔
I think any rugby, football, cricket player who ever travelled to games in a team coach will remember that one Roy!
Cheers, Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Plenty Roy😁
But you're a self confessed computer man so, depending on the device/OS you use, you should be able to work some out for yourself.
Just like I did😉
Happy investigating🤞
Cheers, Doug 😎
Plenty Roy😁
But you're a self confessed computer man so, depending on the device/OS you use, you should be able to work some out for yourself.
Just like I did😉
Happy investigating🤞
Cheers, Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
I had never thought of pointing my cursor at another country so this was a revelation!
Are there other secrets only known to a few yet to be revealed?
Roy
I had never thought of pointing my cursor at another country so this was a revelation!
Are there other secrets only known to a few yet to be revealed?
Roy
All this latin! I thought it meant Quite Easily Done! Nota Bene I have not had to think about that since leaving school.
We did do 2 years of Latin and then onto Geometry Theorems, they seemed to like a bit of Latin
My Question of the Day! How many of you have used algebra since leaving school. I confess I have, but only a few times, honest!
I should have given some answers!
a, never b, what is algebra c, Titanic d, till it hurts
From being told "Could do better" in maths I spent my main career working out why computers and their antecedants kept getting wrong answers.
It all turned out to be a funny old world.
Regards
Roy
All this latin! I thought it meant Quite Easily Done! Nota Bene I have not had to think about that since leaving school.
We did do 2 years of Latin and then onto Geometry Theorems, they seemed to like a bit of Latin
My Question of the Day! How many of you have used algebra since leaving school. I confess I have, but only a few times, honest!
I should have given some answers!
a, never b, what is algebra c, Titanic d, till it hurts
From being told "Could do better" in maths I spent my main career working out why computers and their antecedants kept getting wrong answers.
CEVNI??🤔 ... Aha!💡🤓
"The Code Européen des Voies de la Navigation Intérieure (CEVNI; European Code for Navigation on Inland Waterways) is the European code for rivers, canals and lakes in most of Europe.
Not all European countries use CEVNI for their inland waterways. The United Kingdom, the Nordic countries, Spain, Italy and the Balkans except Croatia have their own regulations."
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"The Code Européen des Voies de la Navigation Intérieure (CEVNI; European Code for Navigation on Inland Waterways) is the European code for rivers, canals and lakes in most of Europe.
Not all European countries use CEVNI for their inland waterways. The United Kingdom, the Nordic countries, Spain, Italy and the Balkans except Croatia have their own regulations."
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Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
I have two real boats and got it wrong Roy.
I have a license to operate my large one inEuropean inland waters as well.
I think I had better go back and do the CEVNI again😬😬😬
I have two real boats and got it wrong Roy.
I have a license to operate my large one inEuropean inland waters as well.
I think I had better go back and do the CEVNI again😬😬😬
I cannot promise to finish one project before starting another. I know, I tried.
I was going for the actual correct answer, brain was activated, target allocation was acquired, calculations worked out for wind velocity and direction, controlled my breathing, relaxed and comfortable, rechecked my proposed answer for correct selection, then carefully placed my index finger on the answer, touched " are you sure " and got the wrong answer......i realised i had had an issue and totally missed my proposed aiming point...
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I was going for the actual correct answer, brain was activated, target allocation was acquired, calculations worked out for wind velocity and direction, controlled my breathing, relaxed and comfortable, rechecked my proposed answer for correct selection, then carefully placed my index finger on the answer, touched " are you sure " and got the wrong answer......i realised i had had an issue and totally missed my proposed aiming point...
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Using reason logic and common sense, I took a stab in the dark and was not surprised at the outcome. Wrong again, mind I am consistent as have most of my answers to date, that is of course consistently WRONG. Regards, Gary.
Using reason logic and common sense, I took a stab in the dark and was not surprised at the outcome. Wrong again, mind I am consistent as have most of my answers to date, that is of course consistently WRONG. Regards, Gary.
Hi Doug I took a reasoned guess and was surprised to be right. Rather an obscure question, really of intererst to boat owners rather than modellers.
Roy
Hi Doug I took a reasoned guess and was surprised to be right. Rather an obscure question, really of intererst to boat owners rather than modellers.
Roy
Hi Bill,
That book appears to be the book of the Nat Geo documentary from the series 'Revealed: Secrets of the Sea' (translation of the German Title!).
Doug😎
Hi Bill,
That book appears to be the book of the Nat Geo documentary from the series 'Revealed: Secrets of the Sea' (translation of the German Title!).
Doug😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Gents,
with regard to today's question, I associate the word shipwreck with the likes of storm seas, hurricane winds, and running aground on rocks or whatever. The USS Indianapolis was first bombed by the Japanese, then after being repaired was hit by two torpedoes and sank, with a great loss of life. Mind I could be wrong of course as I usually am with the quiz questions so far, and yesterday's was no exception to this rule I opted for WIND. Regards, Gary.
Gents,
with regard to today's question, I associate the word shipwreck with the likes of storm seas, hurricane winds, and running aground on rocks or whatever. The USS Indianapolis was first bombed by the Japanese, then after being repaired was hit by two torpedoes and sank, with a great loss of life. Mind I could be wrong of course as I usually am with the quiz questions so far, and yesterday's was no exception to this rule I opted for WIND. Regards, Gary.
Gents.
I have to say that on reading the question I instantly went for USS Indianapolis.(Rightly of Wrongly).
I instantly discounted the others purely on the date given in the question.
This potentially could be a real topic for a debate on literal correctness.
The debate being on the difference between a Novel and a Book.(Too long to type here but look it up)
Indeed I can find no NOVELS on the Indianapolis but there are numerous BOOKS written on this tragic sinking and whilst I agree I wouldn’t call the film exactly famous it certainly was graphically correct.
A debatable typo worded question down to individual interpretation,but I feel that the correct answer is Indianapolis.
We also have to remember this is a light hearted quiz and not University Challenge 😂😂.
I could well be wrong…the wife frequently tells me I am!!
Hope that makes sense.
Regards
Bill
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Gents.
I have to say that on reading the question I instantly went for USS Indianapolis.(Rightly of Wrongly).
I instantly discounted the others purely on the date given in the question.
This potentially could be a real topic for a debate on literal correctness.
The debate being on the difference between a Novel and a Book.(Too long to type here but look it up)
Indeed I can find no NOVELS on the Indianapolis but there are numerous BOOKS written on this tragic sinking and whilst I agree I wouldn’t call the film exactly famous it certainly was graphically correct.
A debatable typo worded question down to individual interpretation,but I feel that the correct answer is Indianapolis.
We also have to remember this is a light hearted quiz and not University Challenge 😂😂.
I could well be wrong…the wife frequently tells me I am!!
Hope that makes sense.
Regards
Bill
Another 'None of the above' question!
Seems to be a typo in this question! As none of these ships sank in 1942!
Problem is - Which typo?🤔
Either 1912 instead of 1942 -> correct answer Titanic, film and books? Check. But novel, can't find one. Survivors accounts in book form apparently existed??
Several films were made, including a silent movie starring a survivor. Famous is of course James Cameron's in 1997.
or
1941 instead of 1942 -> then Arizona (Pearl Harbor) is correct, film yes, novel not that I can find.
or
1945 instead of 1942 -> then Indianapolis is correct. On her return voyage from delivering to Tinian island the Uranium and other parts required for the assembly of the atomic bomb codenamed "Little Boy", which would be dropped on Hiroshima a few weeks later.
Film yes, novel not that I can find? Film was not exactly famous.🙄
Lusitania was sunk in 1915 by U20 so would mean a double typo! Less likely. But-
Several novels, one animated film (1918) and docus (2007 and 2012).
So it's Russian Roulette folks!🤔
The odds favour Titanic but I ain't in a gambling mood this time.
Cheers, Doug 😎
Another 'None of the above' question!
Seems to be a typo in this question! As none of these ships sank in 1942!
Problem is - Which typo?🤔
Either 1912 instead of 1942 -> correct answer Titanic, film and books? Check. But novel, can't find one. Survivors accounts in book form apparently existed??
Several films were made, including a silent movie starring a survivor. Famous is of course James Cameron's in 1997.
or
1941 instead of 1942 -> then Arizona (Pearl Harbor) is correct, film yes, novel not that I can find.
or
1945 instead of 1942 -> then Indianapolis is correct. On her return voyage from delivering to Tinian island the Uranium and other parts required for the assembly of the atomic bomb codenamed "Little Boy", which would be dropped on Hiroshima a few weeks later.
Film yes, novel not that I can find? Film was not exactly famous.🙄
Lusitania was sunk in 1915 by U20 so would mean a double typo! Less likely. But-
Several novels, one animated film (1918) and docus (2007 and 2012).
So it's Russian Roulette folks!🤔
The odds favour Titanic but I ain't in a gambling mood this time.
Cheers, Doug 😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Oh! Dear. I have definite proof I am a Time Traveller! I have just answered a definitely new question and I had a response that I had already answered that question!
This could be exciting, will I be seeing more than one coronation today? I would like more proof so I am checking my model boats to see if there is one where I do not remember its' history. As Captain Oates once said, "I shall be gone a while"
Anyone else on the Yesterday trail of all our tomorrows?
Roy
Oh! Dear. I have definite proof I am a Time Traveller! I have just answered a definitely new question and I had a response that I had already answered that question!
This could be exciting, will I be seeing more than one coronation today? I would like more proof so I am checking my model boats to see if there is one where I do not remember its' history. As Captain Oates once said, "I shall be gone a while"
Anyone else on the Yesterday trail of all our tomorrows?
Definitely time travelling Roy.👍
This is the second time we've met ourselves coming back!😮
With all this toing and froing we can't tell our keels from our bottoms any more😁
We'll have to do a Warp 10 slingshot round the Sun (on my mark Mr Sulu) to get back to 'our' present - whenever that is!
Oh Mobius Mobius wherefore art thou Mobius?
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Definitely time travelling Roy.👍
This is the second time we've met ourselves coming back!😮
With all this toing and froing we can't tell our keels from our bottoms any more😁
We'll have to do a Warp 10 slingshot round the Sun (on my mark Mr Sulu) to get back to 'our' present - whenever that is!
Oh Mobius Mobius wherefore art thou Mobius?
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Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
I think that is the second time I have got that question wrong!
There is definitely some deja vous at work here, or perhaps I really am a time traveller but just don't know it? A sort of extension of the Ground Hog Day effect!
It is all very worrying just as I think I am settling into retirement and have covered all the issues only to find out there is an alto ego of me wandering around the Time Continuum.
On the other hand is it Windows 11? Struggling to find where they hid all the essentials this time around. I hope I never get to Windows 12!
Oh well I expect tomorrow may be like today but how will I know?
Roy
I think that is the second time I have got that question wrong!
There is definitely some deja vous at work here, or perhaps I really am a time traveller but just don't know it? A sort of extension of the Ground Hog Day effect!
It is all very worrying just as I think I am settling into retirement and have covered all the issues only to find out there is an alto ego of me wandering around the Time Continuum.
On the other hand is it Windows 11? Struggling to find where they hid all the essentials this time around. I hope I never get to Windows 12!
Oh well I expect tomorrow may be like today but how will I know?
Roy
"Should’ve just googled it🤣"
I would not recommend that course of action Commodore.😠
It would be a flagrant disregard of quiz regulations and conduct unbecoming of a Flag Officer, resulting in a Disciplinary Hearing and a Severe Reprimand would be entered on your Service Record.
Regards, FLEET😎
"Should’ve just googled it🤣"
I would not recommend that course of action Commodore.😠
It would be a flagrant disregard of quiz regulations and conduct unbecoming of a Flag Officer, resulting in a Disciplinary Hearing and a Severe Reprimand would be entered on your Service Record.
Regards, FLEET😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Y’know, the next question could be “Which lake in North Texas is known for its striped bass?”-and since I don’t fish much anymore, and when I did it was old school fishing off the bank with live bait, I would probably get THAT wrong too..🤣
Actually, I think the answer to that might be Texoma, but I’m not sure.
Y’know, the next question could be “Which lake in North Texas is known for its striped bass?”-and since I don’t fish much anymore, and when I did it was old school fishing off the bank with live bait, I would probably get THAT wrong too..🤣
Actually, I think the answer to that might be Texoma, but I’m not sure.
Hmm! Another one of those 'None of the above' questions!
Arrived at the 'correct' (🙄) answer by simple elimination, but a Mull is not a sea passage but a hill or promontory, as in the southern tip of of Kintyre (Mull of Kintyre) which is the closest point to Northern Ireland. But I've never heard of a 'Straight of Kintyre' which would make more sense. And yes, I have travelled the west coast of Scotland and the coast of Northern Ireland from Belfast to Londonderry. Giant's Causeway is phenomenal😉
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Hmm! Another one of those 'None of the above' questions!
Arrived at the 'correct' (🙄) answer by simple elimination, but a Mull is not a sea passage but a hill or promontory, as in the southern tip of of Kintyre (Mull of Kintyre) which is the closest point to Northern Ireland. But I've never heard of a 'Straight of Kintyre' which would make more sense. And yes, I have travelled the west coast of Scotland and the coast of Northern Ireland from Belfast to Londonderry. Giant's Causeway is phenomenal😉
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Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Hi just found I was doing the 2nd. email address right except the tiny text on careful inspection revealed a letter that should have been upper case corrected it and it all shot through!
Cup of coffee time I think, then it is a quick go round the house with the D***n before my dear wife returns from holiday.
Roy
Hi just found I was doing the 2nd. email address right except the tiny text on careful inspection revealed a letter that should have been upper case corrected it and it all shot through!
Cup of coffee time I think, then it is a quick go round the house with the D***n before my dear wife returns from holiday.
Roy
Hi all, I have to report a success and have transferred all my address book names into the new address book! I am not sure how but there was an email involved!
I can relax now just got to sort out how to get my second email account on there as well.
Sundays back in the day were rest days the shops were shut hymns were sung and you usually got a good lunch.
Where did it all go? I used to sing in the choir but am now relegated to the shower. We used to go for a walk after lunch with the 2 children (whether they liked it or not) or perhaps a morning sail of a boat if not required for the choir.
I think this all fits in with Question of the day? I suppose we all have to answer the Q of the D first before we can read the posts.
Carry on carrying on.
Roy
Hi all, I have to report a success and have transferred all my address book names into the new address book! I am not sure how but there was an email involved!
I can relax now just got to sort out how to get my second email account on there as well.
Sundays back in the day were rest days the shops were shut hymns were sung and you usually got a good lunch.
Where did it all go? I used to sing in the choir but am now relegated to the shower. We used to go for a walk after lunch with the 2 children (whether they liked it or not) or perhaps a morning sail of a boat if not required for the choir.
I think this all fits in with Question of the day? I suppose we all have to answer the Q of the D first before we can read the posts.
Carry on carrying on.
Roy
you can download the manual for windows 11, only 208 pages but it is continually being updated, good luck😜
I also use apple and am involved with PIRDA where we recycle donated computers into usable ones and give to worthy causes, eg schools
you can download the manual for windows 11, only 208 pages but it is continually being updated, good luck😜
I also use apple and am involved with PIRDA where we recycle donated computers into usable ones and give to worthy causes, eg schools
Open the lid,slide the book in,shut the lid.
What a way to start the day…brilliant answer,,,,just love it.
Really appeals to my sense of humour.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
My goodness that is a lot of facts for a young man to grapple with! Meanwhile back on the container ship knots were the order of the day. But I see the connection to the have Knots and the French lady. What a mind our interlocutor has!
Now back to the main question in my house, how do I get my old address book into my new laptop?
Roy
My goodness that is a lot of facts for a young man to grapple with! Meanwhile back on the container ship knots were the order of the day. But I see the connection to the have Knots and the French lady. What a mind our interlocutor has!
Now back to the main question in my house, how do I get my old address book into my new laptop?
Roy
Ref Query # 17,171
"Who is this daycart bloke? I know the Americans had an Oxcart, any relation?"
Yes Roy, the Americans did have an Oxcart project.
The objective being to design a replacement for the U2 pop group.😁
U2 having been rendered obsolete by developments in Russian Ground to Stage Culture Defence Missiles (GTSCDMs).
Designed at the Kentucky 'Skunk Works', an old Bourbon distillery, it was the first Oxcart to attain MACH 3.2 in level flight at 83,000 feet.
Much to the the surprise of the Ox!😮🙈
No apparent relation to Ronny Daycart.
He was a renowned French mathematician and philosopher who in 1637 was appointed Chief Designer of a fast transport required for the emergent French Army Air Force.
The transport was to be named after Ronny and designed at the 'Usine de Moufette' plant in Toulouse. Later to become the Airbus central assembly plant.
Unfortunately the novelty of the design, and consequent necessity to push back the boundaries of known science, metallurgy and engineering practices of the time in a quantum leap, resulted in such horrendous development costs 🤑 (Cost overruns🙄) that taxes had to be raised to unprecedented levels.
The consequent civil unrest, due to most of the population being reduced to poverty and hunger, simmered for ca 150 years and ultimately resulted in the French Revolution some 150 years later.
It was rumoured that a Queen Consort, on hearing that the proletariat could not afford to buy bread, replied "Let them eat cake".
History does not document if the 'Daycart Project' ever got off the ground.😁
Probably mainly due to the problems encountered in fitting 34,000 horses, in twin mounts, to the cartframe as were required to meet the Army's speed specification, i.e. Paris to Moscow under two hours. It is not documented if problems met trying to achieve the necessary power to weight ratio were ever satisfactorily resolved.
During initial tests problems with overheating wheel bearings were also reported. 🤣 A polymer based grease was proposed but never came to anything as no one knew what a polymer was and there was no French word for it.😂
Daycart himself did not live to see the first prototype being built. He died of pneumonia in 1650 while on holiday in Stockholm, shacked up with Queen Christina in her cold and draughty castle.
I trust that this clarifies your query to your satisfaction Roy.
Best regards, FLEET😎
CO Alternative Facts & Bullshit Division MBW Navy.
With acknowledgements to-
The Chuckles Encyclopedia of Modern History, Florida,
CEO & Chief Researcher: D J Trump.
Archives nationales de la Bastille, Paris.
Ref Query # 17,171
"Who is this daycart bloke? I know the Americans had an Oxcart, any relation?"
Yes Roy, the Americans did have an Oxcart project.
The objective being to design a replacement for the U2 pop group.😁
U2 having been rendered obsolete by developments in Russian Ground to Stage Culture Defence Missiles (GTSCDMs).
Designed at the Kentucky 'Skunk Works', an old Bourbon distillery, it was the first Oxcart to attain MACH 3.2 in level flight at 83,000 feet.
Much to the the surprise of the Ox!😮🙈
No apparent relation to Ronny Daycart.
He was a renowned French mathematician and philosopher who in 1637 was appointed Chief Designer of a fast transport required for the emergent French Army Air Force.
The transport was to be named after Ronny and designed at the 'Usine de Moufette' plant in Toulouse. Later to become the Airbus central assembly plant.
Unfortunately the novelty of the design, and consequent necessity to push back the boundaries of known science, metallurgy and engineering practices of the time in a quantum leap, resulted in such horrendous development costs 🤑 (Cost overruns🙄) that taxes had to be raised to unprecedented levels.
The consequent civil unrest, due to most of the population being reduced to poverty and hunger, simmered for ca 150 years and ultimately resulted in the French Revolution some 150 years later.
It was rumoured that a Queen Consort, on hearing that the proletariat could not afford to buy bread, replied "Let them eat cake".
History does not document if the 'Daycart Project' ever got off the ground.😁
Probably mainly due to the problems encountered in fitting 34,000 horses, in twin mounts, to the cartframe as were required to meet the Army's speed specification, i.e. Paris to Moscow under two hours. It is not documented if problems met trying to achieve the necessary power to weight ratio were ever satisfactorily resolved.
During initial tests problems with overheating wheel bearings were also reported. 🤣 A polymer based grease was proposed but never came to anything as no one knew what a polymer was and there was no French word for it.😂
Daycart himself did not live to see the first prototype being built. He died of pneumonia in 1650 while on holiday in Stockholm, shacked up with Queen Christina in her cold and draughty castle.
I trust that this clarifies your query to your satisfaction Roy.
Best regards, FLEET😎
CO Alternative Facts & Bullshit Division MBW Navy.
With acknowledgements to-
The Chuckles Encyclopedia of Modern History, Florida,
CEO & Chief Researcher: D J Trump.
Archives nationales de la Bastille, Paris.
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
I have had many a blazing row with chatbots and robophone operators. Anything that doesn't tie in with their default answers. Even HUMAN OPERATOR ! HUMAN OPERATOR! HUMAN OPERATOR! and AGENT AGENT AGENT Doesn't sway them from their path. "You want to hear your balance is that right?" Or " you want to leave a meter reading? Is that correct?" I had 3 days of that trying to contact Fedex last week. Top tip coming up folks! I posted my questions and concerns on their Facebook page. Guess what! They contacted me within 5 minutes of posting. So there we have it, out them on Facebook...
I have had many a blazing row with chatbots and robophone operators. Anything that doesn't tie in with their default answers. Even HUMAN OPERATOR ! HUMAN OPERATOR! HUMAN OPERATOR! and AGENT AGENT AGENT Doesn't sway them from their path. "You want to hear your balance is that right?" Or " you want to leave a meter reading? Is that correct?" I had 3 days of that trying to contact Fedex last week. Top tip coming up folks! I posted my questions and concerns on their Facebook page. Guess what! They contacted me within 5 minutes of posting. So there we have it, out them on Facebook...