Not fair, why the second chance as I got the first time correct. Put in the same answer as I did the first time now that was wrong,”. Why?

Second chance to all today! I've updated the question and reset any entries.

Also Doug... I may have found a reason for your glitch by accident. I discovered the database is creating a few questions per day, not just the one! Shouldn't be happening... so I'll fix that later. It could be that when you clicked it was right, then the database got another update, page refreshed, the new question was then wrong... seems possible. Some were the same question but the answers swapped about.

Stephen

I'm with Neil on the "red and black with circles/spheres" as Isolated danger. At least that's the way they had out on the Long Island Sound over an old sugar boat wreck. My Dad would point it out on high speed runs to see the lighthouse on Great Captain's Island. Wonderful memories.

The description told me that it was a cardinal buoy. I have forgotten which is which so is about time that I brushed up on my CEVNI.😳

Wow, hard question, like a trick question. Took a whole to chose the answer but ended up choosing the correct one🤔

I meant this for those who didn't understand.
I'm still thinking about it though.
I'm groping in the dark, or rather in a blurry fog.
We hope for an intervention by Fireboat.

Wrong! There should have been a westerly cardinal mark option...

The answer should have been a Westerly Cardinal Mark. I went for the only Cardinal option.

Isolated Danger is Red and Black, with 2 spheres on top.

I did like it that the quiz shows the dangers of Generative AI.

Well as all of the answers are wrong, I decided to guess what the Ai was thinking, and got it wrong. So it's just the same as not answering.😁

Anyone coming to the Q o D will have these responses (re- all the above incorrect) blurred out. That does lead to frustration and wasted time! I note % choices are changing as I type.

An early re-set would be appreciated.
Roy

Hello everyone.
Today I am in great difficulty because the signal as described indicates a cardinal signal, specifically the safe passage to the West (west passage of danger).
Signals of this type are international and cannot be interpreted or mistaken.
When I learned them I used a simple method for cardinal signals: Cones with opposite vertices draw the letter E (so East), while cones with joined vertices draw the letter W (so West). North is indicated by cones pointing up and south by cones pointing down.
It is certainly not an isolated danger, these are not safe waters and even less a special signal.

But what to do? If I skip the question it will be considered incorrect, I might as well throw it out randomly (I will have a 25% chance of getting it right).
I hope Stephen (Fireboat) intervenes first.
The answer c is wrong but at least it is correct that it is a cardinal signal.

Hi all, yes all the answers are wrong according to the maritime code of cardinal marks.
The one described is for staying west of a danger.

Roy

Do we all agree that the answer today is none of the above? It should be safe passage to the west?

I may have to reset today’s question.

Getting closer to AI being reliable but then it throws in a curve ball, or a buoy 😫

Stephen

Hi All,
Bin a long day, so I think I'll wait 'til after breakfast to answer the next question😉
Night night, sleep tight and don't let the bedbugs bite😁😮😠

😴💤💤💤

Hi Alessandro,
I usually have a vague idea what I want to write, but ...
To make sure I check with my favourite translator, see link below, which seems to be pretty accurate😉
"Di solito ho una vaga idea di cosa voglio scrivere, ma...
Per essere sicuro di controllare con il mio traduttore preferito, vedi il link qui sotto, che sembra essere abbastanza accurato."

Cin cin, Doug😉😂

https://www.translator.eu

Excellent Italian, very good Doug.

Hi Doug I often think of Nerys, a like from her used to make my day! What a lady she must have been! Agree sadly missed.
regards
Roy

Hi Doug
Not really hiding.Healing Dec I went in for bypass surgery 4 months later I'm finally getting to feel like my old self.
Spring is just around the corner and I'm looking foreword to getting outside to walk more.
Rick

Hi you Oldie Newby, welcome back😀
Where ya been hiding? What have you been up to?
Yeah, know what you mean, but I'm a bit of a 'stand up man'.
Like the toys you can tip over but always come back up😁
Cheers,Doug😎

Hi Roy,
Thanks for your faith in me👍
BTW; just noticed this in one of your posts on this thread-
"I am fitting a boomkin,..."
Reminded me of an anecdote from our dear departed and sorely missed Fleet Admiral and OC of our Wrens Division Nerys RIP.
The topic of 'boomkin' came up and she recounted a story from her Thames sailing barge days, before she herself became a barge Captain.
Her Captain was sitting on the stern boomkin doing his business, no WC on board (😮🙈), when from astern they heard a loud cheer and shouts of encouragement.
Coming up from astern was a small cruise ship with passengers and crew crowded onto the foredeck all yelling him on!🙈
RIP Nerys, we badly miss her expertise and humour.
I still have the Port & Starboard socks she sent me hanging from a shelf above my PC desk.
My tribute to a wonderful Lady.
Cheers, Doug😎

Carefull Doug Falling hurts But its the getting back up that I find the hardest
Rick

HI Doug, glad you are restored! I got it wrong, so no complaints.
Roy

Thankyou Alessandro👍
Grazie mille per la vostra fiducia in me😉
Tutto è bene quel che finisce bene!
Ciao, Doug😎

For what my opinion is worth (certainly not technical since I don't understand anything about IT) I vote for Doug's sincerity.
In my opinion Stephen did well to reinstate it in the correct answer.

Thankyou Stephen👍
Weird!🤔 Roy also seems to have suffered from some 'oddities'?
I only know that I nearly fell off my chair at the response😮
A 'First' for me that I could have done without😉
AI's revenge😁
Cheers, Doug😎

I was wrong, it was 1 minute and 9 seconds after the new question was released. The server works on GMT+0 (no summer time).

Not accusing you of fiddling! It's likely something unusual happened. Somehow C must have been selected. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has seen this? I've a feeling it's been mentioned before.

Stephen

Hi Stephen,
Don't waste too much time on it.
If that's what the server 'thinks' then reset me to 93% if you wish.
I don't want to be accused of some kind of fiddle or 'bleating'.

Another oddity; 1minute 19 seconds?
I would swear before The Old Bailey that I answered A. (a No Brainer) at 02:24 CET Summer Time, being ZULU/GMT plus 2 hours.
I had been catching up with the Snooker World Championship replays (was out with Gisela in the evening as the matches were played) with one eye on the clock😜
Result was confetti about halfway down the screen, then a flash of 'white screen', then the wrong answer screen!
Quite a conundrum! Glitch my end?
Graphic card / CPU misreading the cursor position, interrupt?
Did have a lot going on: two match screens, MB site and Email!
Cheers, Doug😎

No clue why it happened. I know you answered within 1 minute and 19 seconds of the question going live. So I was going along the thoughts of the submission and the server going out of line with the current days question. But looking at the server logs, you did submit answer C…

Why the confetti if that was the case I haven’t worked out still! 🤣 perhaps an uncleared cache somewhere.

Might be worth giving it 5 minutes after a new question is out before submitted an answer 🤷‍♂️

I’ll have another dive into it later.

Stephen

Looks like A I is out thinking it's self!😀😀

Hi Stephen,
Yes.
Using the Trade Winds and following the Gulf Stream are well known practices to save time (and fuel if not wind powered).
I recall getting a brief glimpse of the colourful 'shower' and then the view as in attached screen snip. Much to my surprise and disappointment☹️
Some kind of glitch?
Was I unlucky enough to click A just as the server was busy with something else with a higher interrupt priority, unlucky coincidence?
If you can't find any evidence of such a glitch, always difficult I know, then I'll just have to assume that Capt. AI just doesn't like me coz I criticised him and suggested he be demoted, and take my medicine🙄
Cheers, Doug😎
PS Just saw the correction many thanks. Any clue how it happened?

Are you sure you answered A? 🤔😝

Stephen

What the heck???🤔
I answered A. (simple general knowledge) got the coloured shower and then immediately this🤔Grumble grumble😠
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Initially I had difficulty answering because the English term "cleat" was translated as "bitta".
In reality the term "cleat" is translated as both "bitta" and "galloccia" which are two very different things, even if they perform a very similar function.

The "bitta", depicted in the first image, is a low and sturdy column, generally made of cast iron, ending with a collar or a mushroom head, which is placed along the edge of the docks of ports (and also on the decks of ships) to tie the chains or mooring cables; there are also smaller "bitta", formed by two paired columns and joined at the base by a horizontal rod, which are fixed to the deck or to the walls to give direction to the cables.

The "galloccia", depicted in the second image, is one of the various fixed devices used to stop a rope or a rope or a cable.
The most traditional model consists of a flat surface (plate or base), which constitutes the contact area with the boat from which one or more short rods emerge vertically, from which, transversally (and parallel to the base plate), two pointed or more often flared ends (called gunwales or horns) branch out, which serve to prevent the cable from coming out.
The cable is then usually blocked by making a special cleat knot on the horns, which is done in two slightly different ways depending on whether the knot must be able to be untied quickly (typically when it is used to stop sheets and therefore in this version it is sometimes also called a sheet knot, even if this term can also be used to indicate the flag knot, since this latter knot is used to extend a sheet) or if the knot must be more resistant (typically when it is used to stop halyards and therefore in this version it is sometimes also called a halyard knot).
The connection between the cleat and the part of the boat is made with screws. However, given the considerable stress that this joint must withstand, the joint can be reinforced with the use of a powerful glue.

The material with which the cleat is made can be either metal or a resistant plastic.

From the answers I had guessed that it had to be the cleat intended as "galloccia", it could not be otherwise, but I had to check that the term cleat translated both Italian terms.

Ropework! Now we're talking!

Hi roycv,
CHEERS, that's interesting to know. !!!
I will have to just keep going for for the next 30 days in the hopes.
👍👍😊👍🚤🚤

Hi Boatshed, life is a b****r! That means your score cannot rise above 93% for a month, while the 30 days plays out!
Roy

Having done this, securing a mooring rope, it was a simple read but the correct answer was incomplete! Wi must have been the beginning of with, and then what?

These days the cleats have 2 legs and mooring ropes have end loops and you push the loop through the legs and stretch it across one end (horn) of the cleat and then the other. Impossible to come loose and easy to free.
Roy

roycv, I missed answering 2 days due to visitors and now I have dropped down to position 6 and you have overtaken me.
I was in position 4, I was at 80% I'm now down to 77% when I looked I was 73% until I answered todays question tonight.

There is an interesting follow up to this as the commander of U30, Fritz-Julius Lemp, was later in charge of U110. This is the submarine that was captured as the scuttling charges possibly did not go off. A boarding party then got hold of an enigma machine and code books, which were dispatched to Bletchley Park.
Lemp was seen swimming back to U110 but it is believed he succumbed to the cold Atlantic water.

If you have an Enigma machine lurking in your attic it may well be worth more than your house.

Roy

Another dodgy answer! I went with the premise that AI got it wrong so it was Athenia I clicked on. I think trying to out guess the question master also being wrong adds a new dimention to a quiz.

Many years ago when I would put a quiz together for a club evening, I said that any queries should be submitted in writing on the back of a non-returnable £5 note.

I was challenged once but eventually he chickened out, a shame as he was also wrong.

Roy

AI got his/her 😮🙈 knickers slightly twisted again.
The ship in question was launched in January 1922 and completed in April 1923. Not 1939!
She was sunk by U30 on 3rd September 1939 only hours after Britain had declared war on NAZI Germany. Her sinking is regarded as the beginning of the Battle of the Atlantic and caused a huge propaganda scandal for the Nazi Navy (DKM).

Good old docu/history channels again.
Plus I have some excellent documentary DVD/BluRays of the Battle of the Atlantic.
Deers, Choug😁 😎
BTW It was RMS Lancastria (Royal Mail Ship) not SS (Steam Ship).
Just by the bye😉

No, I was turned 5 and going to school!
Roy

Apparently a whole squadron, 16 planes, of P38Gs was sent.
339th Fighter Squadron.
In response to a decrypted Japanese signal detailing his itinerary.
Good old History and NatGeo docu channels😉

Exceptional, memory though Roy.👍
You musta bin about 4 at the time.
Cheers, Doug😎

From memory I think either 2 or 3 P38 fighters were sent to intercept his flight and 'do' for him. A bit of an assassination really but it was all out war by then.

Roy

Hi Roy,
"Now tomorrow 18th. what will be in store for us? It was the midnight ride of Paul Revere and also the date of the 'Doolittle' raid in WW2."
And Admiral Yamamoto, CIC of the IJN, was shot down and killed in Operation Vengeance in 1943

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As a point of order, (Mr. Chairman)! Many years ago we had a club member who thought he was at a union meeting! This was always his opening phrase!

The top scorers all 4 of them are equal 1st. the next score down should be equal 5th and so on. I should be 10th. not 3rd.

Roy

Now tomorrow 18th. what will be in store for us? It was the midnight ride of Paul Revere and also the date of the 'Doolittle' raid in WW2.
Today's question was too easy as the other 3 options were unlikely to say the least.

Still following anniversaries though.
Roy

Quite right Doug. I must confess, I did panic for a second after reading the question.😃

Simple process of elimination today (Bay of Pigs Day)😁

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Garth: Canadians are too busy digging out from the snow and putting up snow fences along the border ...