Pictures to accompany the previous post, showing that the stern tube is fixed firmly in place and the hole in the hull has been filled and awaits a coat of paint.
All in all, it's coming together OK.
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Pictures to accompany the previous post, showing that the stern tube is fixed firmly in place and the hole in the hull has been filled and awaits a coat of paint.
All in all, it's coming together OK.
Dave in West Oxfordshire
The model has made some progress since I tacked the stern tube in place, the tube is now properly fixed with glass-filled resin (polyester) and the motor mount likewise. Only a few more hours of work required and the ASR can return to the water. I'll add some pictures after breakfast!
The model has made some progress since I tacked the stern tube in place, the tube is now properly fixed with glass-filled resin (polyester) and the motor mount likewise. Only a few more hours of work required and the ASR can return to the water. I'll add some pictures after breakfast!
Dave in West Oxfordshire
Oxford Dave, As you know, (but newbies may not), One can mix 'anything' with resin (preferably epoxy & some 'recognized fibre', & or filler, even 'sifted'? sawdust, talc, chalk, 'Q' cells, micro ballons, even (sifted) vacuum cleaner spoils? Do you have to have 'Nerves of steel', to be an 'Iron Man'? And are you 'attracted to magnets', as much as women are attracted to you? 🙈 See no women, (if you've already got one),🙉 Hear no women,🙊 No point trying to get a 'word' (or a hand), in'! 'B J', 'B'ad Dad 'J'okes???
Oxford Dave, As you know, (but newbies may not), One can mix 'anything' with resin (preferably epoxy & some 'recognized fibre', & or filler, even 'sifted'? sawdust, talc, chalk, 'Q' cells, micro ballons, even (sifted) vacuum cleaner spoils? Do you have to have 'Nerves of steel', to be an 'Iron Man'? And are you 'attracted to magnets', as much as women are attracted to you? 🙈 See no women, (if you've already got one),🙉 Hear no women,🙊 No point trying to get a 'word' (or a hand), in'! 'B J', 'B'ad Dad 'J'okes???
I have spent most of the day trying to get a pair of ESCs that will work together in my Robbe police boat having damaged one of them when playing ice breakers recently.
Having failed to find any in my various boxes, I decided to get back to the ASR.
I had left the new shaft tube strapped in place and secured it with micro fibres and cyano. It was firmly in place and lined up with the centre line of the hull.
As the picture shows, the original builder had been more than generous when cutting the hole for the tube to pass through the hull, so tomorrow's jobs will include a good helping of glass fibre filler to make good the area around the shaft and also to reinforce the rudder tube.
I need to wait until the morning as I'll have to work with the windows open to minimise the smell of the resin, so best done while my wife is out.
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I have spent most of the day trying to get a pair of ESCs that will work together in my Robbe police boat having damaged one of them when playing ice breakers recently.
Having failed to find any in my various boxes, I decided to get back to the ASR.
I had left the new shaft tube strapped in place and secured it with micro fibres and cyano. It was firmly in place and lined up with the centre line of the hull.
As the picture shows, the original builder had been more than generous when cutting the hole for the tube to pass through the hull, so tomorrow's jobs will include a good helping of glass fibre filler to make good the area around the shaft and also to reinforce the rudder tube.
I need to wait until the morning as I'll have to work with the windows open to minimise the smell of the resin, so best done while my wife is out.
To all you guys who have the military & or wife discipline to help built such amazing, detailed, models, even on benches, (raw nerve, 'can a worms', back ground of pictures?) benches. I've been sniffing glue, (Styrene & some epoxy resin), for 57 years now, as a 'do it for living', (not necessarily good at it), professional boat repairer plus stress of the fore mentioned 'eviction' has affected my brain. I try to cope with wit, ('B J', 'B'ad Dad(g) 'J'oke), but not always witty, whatty!😮? So! Judge me if U will. How would U cope?🤔 Two councilors said my 'Poor Me's are "Very hard to read". Murphy's Law, as soon as U throw it, U need it! Hench hoarding! Beg, buy & or borrow, Dragon - Firefly 8 - 9.2 M tri model request is to help motivate me! If 'moulding' fibre glass, even on good finish, use wax release coats X 2, plus Poly Vinyl Alcohol for 'sure' (sea shore)? release. If done in the sun, that expands the air pores in anything. Slow hardener in bog filler can be used on 'patterns' instead of gel & or flow coat to glass while still paste, & paint later. Tissue for glass bubble control, thin cloth one or either side of Chop Strand Mat makes better, stiffer laminate. Better than any excess resin, (the 'weak link'). 'B J', 'B'ad Dad 'J'oke.
To all you guys who have the military & or wife discipline to help built such amazing, detailed, models, even on benches, (raw nerve, 'can a worms', back ground of pictures?) benches. I've been sniffing glue, (Styrene & some epoxy resin), for 57 years now, as a 'do it for living', (not necessarily good at it), professional boat repairer plus stress of the fore mentioned 'eviction' has affected my brain. I try to cope with wit, ('B J', 'B'ad Dad(g) 'J'oke), but not always witty, whatty!😮? So! Judge me if U will. How would U cope?🤔 Two councilors said my 'Poor Me's are "Very hard to read". Murphy's Law, as soon as U throw it, U need it! Hench hoarding! Beg, buy & or borrow, Dragon - Firefly 8 - 9.2 M tri model request is to help motivate me! If 'moulding' fibre glass, even on good finish, use wax release coats X 2, plus Poly Vinyl Alcohol for 'sure' (sea shore)? release. If done in the sun, that expands the air pores in anything. Slow hardener in bog filler can be used on 'patterns' instead of gel & or flow coat to glass while still paste, & paint later. Tissue for glass bubble control, thin cloth one or either side of Chop Strand Mat makes better, stiffer laminate. Better than any excess resin, (the 'weak link'). 'B J', 'B'ad Dad 'J'oke.
Today my bench has been occupied by a Dean's Marine 1/24 th scale ASR (Air Sea Rescue) which I bought cheaply and ready to run from the club I am a member of. Within ten minutes of buying it, the radio, motor & ESC had been sold to another club member, so I took the non-functioning boat home to start work on it.
As I turned it over, the prop shaft and tube fell out. What I had hoped would be a quick clean, new motor and radio, and back on the water the following weekend.
My first task was to replace the coaming for the superstructure, which I finished this morning.
Over the last few weeks I was struggling to line up the new prop shaft (not helped by the large hole in the hull), but it was only today that I realised that the rudder had been mounted off centre.
Rudder hole fixed with cyano and microfibres, then re-drilled in the correct place, the rudder tube fixed in place.
Next, I established a true centre line on the hull and have tacked the prop tube in place with another dose of microfibres and cyano.
I'll be out at the club pond tomorrow, but hopefully can get the shaft tube firmly fixed in place later tomorrow or on Monday (the joy of retirement!).
No pictures as it is a bit of a mess, but should be back on the water in a week or so.
Today my bench has been occupied by a Dean's Marine 1/24 th scale ASR (Air Sea Rescue) which I bought cheaply and ready to run from the club I am a member of. Within ten minutes of buying it, the radio, motor & ESC had been sold to another club member, so I took the non-functioning boat home to start work on it.
As I turned it over, the prop shaft and tube fell out. What I had hoped would be a quick clean, new motor and radio, and back on the water the following weekend.
My first task was to replace the coaming for the superstructure, which I finished this morning.
Over the last few weeks I was struggling to line up the new prop shaft (not helped by the large hole in the hull), but it was only today that I realised that the rudder had been mounted off centre.
Rudder hole fixed with cyano and microfibres, then re-drilled in the correct place, the rudder tube fixed in place.
Next, I established a true centre line on the hull and have tacked the prop tube in place with another dose of microfibres and cyano.
I'll be out at the club pond tomorrow, but hopefully can get the shaft tube firmly fixed in place later tomorrow or on Monday (the joy of retirement!).
No pictures as it is a bit of a mess, but should be back on the water in a week or so.
Spot on there Doug.
Some folks do have nice big and meticulously laid out workshops which provides satisfaction and interest in its own right but it doesn't mean they produce better models.
I like to be tidy but I'm often working in a bit of a mess due to space considerations. I'm using the small bedroom as a workshop which also doubles up as general household storage and other interests, but whilst space is tight and I have to keep moving things and searching for things I like it as it's nice and cosy and warm at this time of year! There's some things I can't do or want to do in the house but I can live with that.
Chris
Some folks do have nice big and meticulously laid out workshops which provides satisfaction and interest in its own right but it doesn't mean they produce better models.
I like to be tidy but I'm often working in a bit of a mess due to space considerations. I'm using the small bedroom as a workshop which also doubles up as general household storage and other interests, but whilst space is tight and I have to keep moving things and searching for things I like it as it's nice and cosy and warm at this time of year! There's some things I can't do or want to do in the house but I can live with that.
Servus Michel.
Re "Simply too much material, but if you don't put it aside, you'll be annoyed that you no longer have it! Have we modellers now become messies?"
It goes with the territory Michel🙄
Many years ago I read in a German ship modelling magazine (Schiffswerft or maybe Modellwerft?) the following motto, freely translated (for our many members around the world) ...
"A ship modeller never throws anything away which won't start to stink within a week or so."🙊
That's why I now have a mammoth task ahead of me to clear out my workshop and cellar SO I CAN MOVE AROUND AND START TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN🤔
Trouble always is; you can never really decide what to chuck out and what is worth saving!
Always subject to the Universal Rules (apart from "42", probability drive and Slarti Bartfast's fjord building) of ...
1. Stuff always expands to fill the space available for it.
2. Whatever you chuck out - you will urgently need within a week.
So what chance do we have?🙈
The other side is ...
we know we bought a special tool which is ideal for the job in hand.
But do we know where we put it? NO! Can we find it? NO!
So what do we do?
1 Buy it again. Then two days later find the original while looking for something totally different😐
2 Use conventional tools in an unconventional way to get the job done
Cheers, Doug😎
PS, Don't forget your towels folks. DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT😁
Servus Michel.
Re "Simply too much material, but if you don't put it aside, you'll be annoyed that you no longer have it! Have we modellers now become messies?"
It goes with the territory Michel🙄
Many years ago I read in a German ship modelling magazine (Schiffswerft or maybe Modellwerft?) the following motto, freely translated (for our many members around the world) ...
"A ship modeller never throws anything away which won't start to stink within a week or so."🙊
That's why I now have a mammoth task ahead of me to clear out my workshop and cellar SO I CAN MOVE AROUND AND START TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN🤔
Trouble always is; you can never really decide what to chuck out and what is worth saving!
Always subject to the Universal Rules (apart from "42", probability drive and Slarti Bartfast's fjord building) of ...
1. Stuff always expands to fill the space available for it.
2. Whatever you chuck out - you will urgently need within a week.
So what chance do we have?🙈
The other side is ...
we know we bought a special tool which is ideal for the job in hand.
But do we know where we put it? NO! Can we find it? NO!
So what do we do?
1 Buy it again. Then two days later find the original while looking for something totally different😐
2 Use conventional tools in an unconventional way to get the job done
Cheers, Doug😎
PS, Don't forget your towels folks. DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT😁
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Hi BJ,
Re "Doug was 'Submarine Racing', on the Canadian border?"
Actually no, but on an inland sea in Munich, Bavaria.
Running a 107cm type 1A U Boat (1/72nd scale, running two 385 brushed on 12V driving 30mm screws) I easily outran several RTR 'Speed Boats' leaving their proud owners looking a bit glum.😂🤣 Advantage of a ca 10 to 1 LoA to beam ratio😁
Cheers, Doug
BTW What's with all the odd cryptic posts? Have you been inadvertently sniffing too much glue?
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Hi BJ,
Re "Doug was 'Submarine Racing', on the Canadian border?"
Actually no, but on an inland sea in Munich, Bavaria.
Running a 107cm type 1A U Boat (1/72nd scale, running two 385 brushed on 12V driving 30mm screws) I easily outran several RTR 'Speed Boats' leaving their proud owners looking a bit glum.😂🤣 Advantage of a ca 10 to 1 LoA to beam ratio😁
Cheers, Doug
BTW What's with all the odd cryptic posts? Have you been inadvertently sniffing too much glue?
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
Credit where credit is very obviously due Peewit.👍
Would like to see some more of your builds and the How tos!😉
Fun is the main thing though, otherwise why would we bother?🤔
Cheers, Doug😎
Credit where credit is very obviously due Peewit.👍
Would like to see some more of your builds and the How tos!😉
Fun is the main thing though, otherwise why would we bother?🤔
Cheers, Doug😎
Young at heart 😉 Slightly older in other places.😊 Cheers Doug
🤔Sorry to point out the productive & organized mess? on our benches. I haven't recovered from 3 day eviction of 'work? premises', after 40 years & $350k in rent. 👎 🤔 Thinking 'too!' deeply? Again? P.S. The 'Glass Ceiling' is really 'Mink', 'Croc Skin', Glow Mesh & or even Fibre Glass? for light weight, & finish? Was Doug? was 'Submarine Racing', near the Canadian border? Like a mono sinking, "Nothing to see here"!
🤔Sorry to point out the productive & organized mess? on our benches. I haven't recovered from 3 day eviction of 'work? premises', after 40 years & $350k in rent. 👎 🤔 Thinking 'too!' deeply? Again? P.S. The 'Glass Ceiling' is really 'Mink', 'Croc Skin', Glow Mesh & or even Fibre Glass? for light weight, & finish? Was Doug? was 'Submarine Racing', near the Canadian border? Like a mono sinking, "Nothing to see here"!
Hi Michel - they look exactly like the parts I buy for my boat stands. I put my first one together about a year ago after someone turned up at the Oxford club with a stand made with these.
I've been making do with just the one until now, in a week or two when the paint/stain is completely dry, I'll have a total of five.
Hi Michel - they look exactly like the parts I buy for my boat stands. I put my first one together about a year ago after someone turned up at the Oxford club with a stand made with these.
I've been making do with just the one until now, in a week or two when the paint/stain is completely dry, I'll have a total of five.
Hallöchen Zusammen! (Hello everyone)
Hello O-Dave,!
I was in the cool cellar again and inspected my parts in the box. I knew I still had parts like that after the last tidy-up!
But sometimes you store things too well that you have to look for them. . .
Simply too much material, but if you don't put it aside, you'll be annoyed that you no longer have it! Have we modellers now become messies? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
🤣🤣🤣 I love my organised mess! 🤣🤣🤣
OMG!!! 🙈🙈🙈
Bb Michel-C.
Ps: @ Neilw >>> They have it all!
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Hallöchen Zusammen! (Hello everyone)
Hello O-Dave,!
I was in the cool cellar again and inspected my parts in the box. I knew I still had parts like that after the last tidy-up!
But sometimes you store things too well that you have to look for them. . .
Simply too much material, but if you don't put it aside, you'll be annoyed that you no longer have it! Have we modellers now become messies? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
🤣🤣🤣 I love my organised mess! 🤣🤣🤣
OMG!!! 🙈🙈🙈
Bb Michel-C.
NeilW - I would never get away with that! My modelling has to be done in a small spare bedroom as we do not have any outbuildings here. Unlike my previous house which had three or four outbuildings, at least one with insulation and electricity load on in the three acre garden.
Mind you, when I sold up in Finland and moved back to the UK, I was stunned at the difference in house prices.
NeilW - I would never get away with that! My modelling has to be done in a small spare bedroom as we do not have any outbuildings here. Unlike my previous house which had three or four outbuildings, at least one with insulation and electricity load on in the three acre garden.
Mind you, when I sold up in Finland and moved back to the UK, I was stunned at the difference in house prices.
Your bench is a temple of tidyness compared to mine!
It was immaculate a couple of days ago, then I bought more timber.
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No matter how big or small my bench is, I always end up working in about one square foot of it, and spend far more time looking for tools than actually using them.
I suspect that's the same the whole world over!
No matter how big or small my bench is, I always end up working in about one square foot of it, and spend far more time looking for tools than actually using them.
I have spent most of my free time over the last few days putting some new boat stands together. They use the adjustable supports from HA kits and the bases are made from B&Q pine shelving and 1" square pine strip.
All glued & screwed together, I made one a year ago, but decided I needed more. I thought it made sense to make a small batch rather than one at a time.
They just need staining now, and the carrying rope passed through the holes I drilled in the strips under the base, then the rubber feet put on.
Also shows a typical modeller's messy bench!
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I have spent most of my free time over the last few days putting some new boat stands together. They use the adjustable supports from HA kits and the bases are made from B&Q pine shelving and 1" square pine strip.
All glued & screwed together, I made one a year ago, but decided I needed more. I thought it made sense to make a small batch rather than one at a time.
They just need staining now, and the carrying rope passed through the holes I drilled in the strips under the base, then the rubber feet put on.
Also shows a typical modeller's messy bench!