Trotamares ex-fishing boat

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Trotamares ex-fishing boat

After making/constructing model boats for 60 years, I have a good eye for the displacement of a model, no calculations needed except sometimes for sailing yachts.

I have in ready to go state 10 yachts and 11 electric models with about 20 models in the background, plus about 4 unbuilt kits. I have passed on 4 boats to others this last year.

Roy
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#10

Trotamares ex-fishing boat

Excellent advice, Chris, and your observations are very valid.

I can add what I would do.
First, I would find the displacement value (therefore the total weight of the model) by calculating the immersed volume.
With the plans available, it will be very easy; especially for Roy, it will be child's play. We've talked about this a lot in the past, especially when I helped Jock Scott calculate his. He just needs to choose the method he likes best from those he knows.
You can do a practical check in the water once the hull is finished, but in my opinion, it's better to calculate the immersed volume (equivalent to the displacement) first, to better organize the work.
At this point, I would subtract the weight of the model from the displacement (you have the kit materials available for this,
but I would consider an additional 15 or 20% for glues, paints, and resins).
The resulting weight is a rough guide for the electric motors, batteries, cables, receiver, rudder servo, propeller, transmission tube and shaft, other RC components, and especially the ballast.
I would keep the margin lower for safety.

Another challenge will be preparing the openings for battery replacement and for various maintenance or repairs, but having the kit materials available shouldn't be a major problem.
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Trotamares ex-fishing boat

Hi Chris F, good advice for all projects. I have been working on smaller models and have switched to making up my own battery sets from separate cells using my welding kit. I have gone over to 2.8Ahr (2800mAhr) 4/5 size sub-C batteries. Smaller lighter and enough power for a small boat for the afternoon.

I mainly use Graupner Monoperm motors as I have several, with a good choice of small props. I use the tiny esc from Aliexpress around £2 in cost so the drive chain is small and light.

Making up my own batteries has me making them as 2 lots of 3 cells with a link, and these fit across the keel and can be moved around easier than a usual 7.2v 'stick'. This configuration in a boat runs at 10 Watts maximum, and can give an afternoon's sailing.
I have some special magnetic deck power switches I want to test as well.

Love the planning, but have a yacht to finish first.

Roy
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#7

Trotamares ex-fishing boat

You got a bargain there Roy, looks a nice model. As for converting to RC the length is good at 800mm but it's quite narrow at 160mm so I think the main challenge will be fitting all the gear and battery in.

Be a good idea to get everything so that you can set it all out, see what modifications need to be made to bulkheads etc. and what access will be required to the various components.

Chris
Scratch building 7 Faireys at a scale of 1:12 and also have 2 built by Dave Milbourn
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#6

Trotamares ex-fishing boat

Bargin looks like a nice model boat kit should make a good boat
Philuk👍
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#5

Trotamares ex-fishing boat

Hi all sorry wrong attribution. link below, with pictures of kit contents. The 1 :43 scale is good as this is model railway scale "O" or 7mm to the foot, and so there are lots of accessories that can be used.
I made a silly offer for the kit of £60 and it was the only bid. An indication of how many people are building model boats?
Roy

https://www.mantuamodel.co.uk/products/ship-kits/mantua/445/trotamares-motor-schooner-detail


Roy
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Trotamares ex-fishing boat

I think your searches should be directed to the Mantua Model website and not the Artesania Latina website if you want to find the Trotamares model.
If I'm not mistaken, Mantua generally sells kits for beginners and only designs for more experienced craftsmen. This should be the case with Trotamares as well.
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#3

Trotamares ex-fishing boat

Hi, I suggest you just google the name Trotamares and see better photos than I can do. It is an Artesania kit which are all excellent.

Kit is very complete but meant as a decorative model.
Roy
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Trotamares ex-fishing boat

Hi all I bought a Trotamares kit a while back and I aim to have her on the water. However, the construction inside is solid bulkheads. I can use my scroll saw to open these out but there are other concerns re-construction.
Has anyone fitted RC to this kit?

I was following an on-line construction but the crucial photos have been removed!
I can work it all out but I do not want to reinvent the wheel and would welcome anyone elses experience, to speed things up.

Also has anyone got the Billing RCMP Arctic patrol ship St. Roch working? Lovely model spoiled by the designer. They could have sold hundreds of these, if normal model boat construction had been followed.

Roy
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