PT Boat Mufflers

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@jumpugly These boats are not intended to be fine scale - they are 'starter boats' for beginners, so the workmanship will never be perfect! They are designed to give a 'reasonable result' for people with a low skill level - typically children around 8-10 years, who would like to make a model boat but don't want to spend a lot of time and don't have expensive tools or facilities. The 'egg-box' structure means that they can be assembled without a building board (though a flat surface of some kind is helpful). Typically, a bedside table or desk...

The original EeZeBilt range were made by Keil Kraft in the UK in the 1960s. I have added to the range 50 years later with some bigger designs more suitable for radio control, as the 'EeZeBilt 50+' range. You can download the free plans for them here: http://eezebilt.uk/plans.html and the 50+ range includes build logs and in some cases 3-D print files.

Some pics: http://eezebilt.uk/front.jpg http://eezebilt.uk/20260614_151602.jpg http://eezebilt.uk/PTB10.html
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@jumpugly I can see some possibility for confusion here. The mufflers comprise an oval expansion chamber, with an output pipe below and an inlet system with a butterfly valve above. My mufflers were 1" in total size - the oval expansion chamber was about 3/4", which would make that chamber length about 36" in full size - with 8" for the valve above and a 4" stub exhaust below...

My semi-scale EeZeBilts are generally made with eyeball estimations rather than measured scale, but they seem to come out quite close. Here is a shot of the stern of a restored Elco - https://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/PTBoat/PTBoatStern.jpg
and here is a pic of the stern of one of mine: http://eezebilt.uk/img_2344.jpg

I think they look quite similar. Note that in real life all these parts would have been made by different sub-contractors, and so non-critical measurements would have probably been slightly different. And of course continuous development would have occurred, changing various dimensions as a result of combat feedback...
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BTW: Sasa Drobac at Di Stefan 3D Print has helped me out from time to time...his team prints in every scale if you ask and they have a mountain of PT Boat parts. Not always in love with their prices as they vary wildly, but it's a great site all the same to see what they've got. Note: They've farmed out to work to 3D print shops in China and shipping can be slow. Also try "Matthews Model Marine" by Patrick Matthews.

https://distefano3dprint.com/products/1-20-usn-pt-boat-109-mufflers-set?variant=40403649429569&utm_source=Pinterest&utm_medium=organic
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Hi,
Yes I have this article and it is excellent with a great way of producing 6 of these all the same, but it does not have any dimensions.
Steve H
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AI is effectively a more sophisticated Google look-up, and is good for this sort of question. This is what I got back:

On the World War II Elco 80-foot Patrol Torpedo (PT) boat, the six external mufflers mounted diagonally on the stern transom are approximately 14 to 15 inches in diameter and roughly 3.5 to 4 feet in length. Each of the boat's three massive 1,500-horsepower Packard V-12 marine engines required two of these distinct, barrel-shaped "wet type" mufflers (one for the port exhaust bank and one for the starboard exhaust bank of each engine). Design and Dimensions: External Casing Diameter: ~14 to 15 inches. Length: between 42 to 48 inches. Internal Exhaust Pipe Size: The internal copper piping running through the transom and into the mufflers had a diameter of 8 inches, which matches the main exhaust manifold outlets of the Packard engines. The "Dimples": If you are looking at or building a scale model of an Elco boat, you will notice three distinct circumferential reinforcing ribs or "dimples" spaced along the main cylindrical body of each muffler casing.

My EeZeBilt Elco PT Boat is 1/48 scale - 20" long, and I made the mufflers 1" long, which looked in scale to me.
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PT Boat Mufflers

Hi,

The Exhaust Mufflers on a Elco 80 Ft PT Boat are a significant eye catcher on a model, in or out of water.

I would like to get these as close as possible to the originals but I cannot find any complete drawings of these.

I have some photos but need a known dimension to scale these, i've tried AI but get various dimensions but none that are correct when scaled to 1:24th

Could someone please help with a drawing of even just the Length, Width and thickness.

Thanks,
Steve
Steve H
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