3D Printer options for small parts

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#72 14
In a previous post I mentioned that I was off to a model engineering exhibition, our club had a stand and I had a long chat with one of our members.
He is the go to guy on 3D printing. I told him what I was busy with and he advised me to forget ABS and PLA and just stick to PLA+ as for what I am doing it works well without the negatives of PLA and difficulties of ABS.
He has been working on a project for over a year and has finally got it working well. It is a Viking longboat propelled by oarsman. All the components including the gears and levers are 3D printed and the control is not RC but a drum. The depending on how often it is beaten it will row forwards, left or right. All this is controlled by micro processors.
When he is next at the club with it I will get photos and a video.
Ed
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#71 16
Lew, your post is certainly food for thought.
I am going to fit a digital thermometer to the inside of my enclosure and will give it a bit of careful treatment with a heat gun before printing. My project yesterday was loading a Raspberry Pi with Octoprint and getting the camera working.
I have printed the bracket for the Raspberry Pi but still need to print the arm for the camera.

But today I am off the a model engineering show
Bracket
Raspberry Pi
Ed
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#70 16
The problem with the Ender 3 Pro is that the part cooling fan and the motherboard enclosure fan are connected in parallel so changing the setting for the part cooling fan changes the motherboard fan as well. I have now moved the motherboard fan to the terminal block for the in coming 12v supply so it is on as soon as the printer is switched on.
Ed
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#69 18
Preheat your chamber! Just don't rely on the bed heater to warm things up. Have you considered some Styrofoam sheets around the outside of the printer with the seams duct taped? Even though my printer is in our home ((75F) I start my chamber heater that display the chamber temperature outside the enclosure about 15-20 minutes before I start my printing. I warm it to 65C (149F).
Lew
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#68 27
@EdW the fan settings for ABS on my (enclosed) Bambu X2D are Part cooling fan at 10%, heating fan on auto, and exhaust fan at 40%. There's also a "filter fan" that runs 100% but that just circulates in the enclosure.

The exhaust fan setting is done manually - it keeps a little negative pressure on the enclosure in an attempt to keep the styrene fumes contained (the exhaust is ducted out of the house). So long as the enclosure stays hot, the exhaust setting doesn't seem to affect the printing. I would note that the "poop chute" is a large opening in the back of the machine, and I am debating closing in the poop chute/bin to help more, though as of right now, I can barely smell the styrene until I get near the printer - it's in my basement, so I'm not in the room with any fumes. Also, the basement is cold so 40% fan is all I can do and maintain temperature in the enclosure, even with the machine draped with a blanket.

I also let the machine and part cool down before taking the part off the plate. I have warped a part by yanking it off the plate while the plate and part were still warm.
#67 27
@Avoca yes! The vast majority of the time, plumbers are working in PVC, which requires a primer. The glue I bought is for both PVC and ABS, and the directions say it doesn't need the primer for ABS. Having played with it a couple of times now, it melts the surface of ABS instantly.

I have been sanding the surfaces level before gluing with 60 grit paper. Anything finer takes forever!

As this is a new material and process for me, I really don't know how it will work in the long term, but I'm hopeful! I can say that when I stress-tested and broke a couple of hull sections, it was the layer lines that gave, and not the glue joint - which is what I'd been hoping for!
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#66 30
EdW- years ago I tried TPU on my first 3D printer. Didn't have much success so I stayed away from it. I believe they have a much better version of TPU out there and I should give it a go as I do print tires as well.
- As for cementing ABS, I don't know how that folds on that filament. I did use it to install the drain fittings on my kitchen sink! Again, I pretty much stick (no pun intended) to the hobby solvent cements, especially large pieces that need a strong hold. Also apply pressure (i.e. clamps) to really fuse the joint together.
- As for the cooling fan, I don't know what software (slicer) you are using. There might be a setting in there for turning the fan off.
Oops, I just looked this up (you might have similar settings):

How to Turn Off or Adjust Fans in Qidi Studio / OrcaSlicer
1. Open your slicer and go to your Filament Settings (click the edit icon or three dots next to your selected filament profile).
2. Navigate to the Cooling tab.
3. Adjust the speed percentage to 0% or disable specific fans depending on what you want to turn off:
• Part Cooling Fan: Controls the main fan cooling the extruded plastic.
• Auxiliary Part Cooling Fan: Controls the side/auxiliary fan. You can set speed to 0% or turn off the Seal function.
• Exhaust / Chamber Fan: Controls the chamber or exhaust fan. You can set its speed or post-print behavior to 0% here.
4. To disable cooling only during the beginning of a print, use the "Disable fan for the first X layers" setting and increase the layer count (e.g., to 1–5 layers) or enable "No cooling for the first x layers".
Lew
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#65 30
@EdW


Maybe a toggle switch on the printer fan/s power leads??
“Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.” - SunTzu. - Cheers.
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#64 30
@Fishercat

My son is a licensed plumber. The amount of times he has to repair failed fittings pays for his insane 4WD habits.

Apparently, for long, permanent, adhesion with plumbers glue, his advice has always been to his apprentice's, "... clean the surfaces with the glue prep-stuff first. That's why I buy it"!
“Keep your friends close; keep your enemies closer.” - SunTzu. - Cheers.
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#63 30
My ABS filament has arrived. After a bit of research I need to modify my printers fan wiring as the part cooling fan and the motherboard fan are in parallel, with ABS I believe you must either turn the part cooling fan off or set its speed to 0. This will have the same effect on the motherboard fan, not a good idea.
Ed
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#62 36
@LewZ thanks for the info! I used the enamels from the hardware store in rattle cans on my last project with great success, so I'm happy to be able to continue to do that. It's not the most cost effective solution, but it's fast and tough. I did a couple of test coats yesterday with good results, so I'm moving forward.

I have 2 hull sections glued up with plumber's glue. I'll glue up the back third of the boat and then get the shafts, motors and rudders mechanically fitted.

As this boat is darn near 2m long, I plan on doing most of the finishing in sections, and then glue/fair the last few joints. I just think it's easier to be working on shorter sections. Gonna be a LOT of sanding in my future!
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#61 38
Hi one n all I have a K2 printer on its way , its the type that's enclosed in a tin and glass box. Col
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#60 38
@LewZ I am modifying a Billings White Star into a Pibber lookalike I have got a roll of ABS arriving today, hope I get results as good as yours. Have you used TPU yet
Ed
Ed
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#59 38
Edw, RC tanks?. I printed a tripod for the BMG at 1/10 scale but it was a little bumpy. I was going to use it with my RC jeep, however, I made a side mount for the 30 cal BMG (also 3D printed). I wonder how it would turn out using my new .6mm layer height.
1/10 scale
Lew
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#58 38
Paints for ABS:
Haven't had any issues with ABS. Acrylic still is a slight issue for me often requiring a second coat. Petroleum based enamels are my preference. Quit often I use the cheap tall spray cans from Walmart or a big box store. Sometimes I have to by the small "hobby" rattle cans for specific colors. Problem with these small rattle cans is the are the same price as a tall one which contains about 5X the amount of paint even thought the are made by the same manufacturer.
Lew
Florida, USA
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#57 38
Some tips on ABS printing:
- I find that using an enclosure is very important with ABS parts. Without an enclosure you should be able to get away with small parts that are low/thin on the heating bed if the air is undisturbed. I've heard of people making a cardboard enclosure (make sure the top is covered as well.
- The inclusion of a bed heater is a must, especially for taller parts.
- Leave the printed parts on the bed/plate until after the bed and part cools down. This prevents warping due to uneven temperatures between the top and the bottom of the part. Some people will remove the plate with the part and putting it next to a fan to cool it down faster.
Lew
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#56 42
@ColRay I'm with you. I just haven't had the success with PETG that a lot of people have had. For me, it just warps all the time. I am willing to try a carbon filled PETG to see if it'll stay straight, but if I can paint ABS successfully, I'll just stick with that, I think.
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#55 42
@LewZ that's great! I bought some ABS plumber's glue and that worked a treat. I also got a good result from heavily keying 2 parts and using epoxy, but I think the ABS glue was better. The epoxy flaked off where it wasn't well keyed.

I'll definitely try some of those easier to deal with glues. I had thought about acetone. I'll try that.

What paints do you use? That's the "final frontier" on making this build happen.

I've been printing test hull sections and, because this hull is almost 1900mm long and only about 80mm from keel to deck (it's a canal vessel), I've been worried about snapping it if it takes a hit or gets dropped. So, I printed 2 sections with 4 walls, and was able to snap them over my knee (the joint held). So, I just printed a section with 8 walls. I couldn't snap that one. So I figure the middle sections will be 8 walls, moving down to 6 and 4 at the ends. I'm really liking ABS now that I have the smell dealt with. It prints beautifully and I really don't worry about it like I do with PETG. When I have a painting system, I'll be a happy camper.
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#53 45
Hello Lew I have been toying with PET G the state of play.. Don't thing I'm doing that well . Col
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#52 45
@LewZ Hi Lew
It’s 1/10 scale but I want to scale it down to 1/35 for a project that I am working on. I have the STLs for a tripod mounted and ring mounted versions,
Ed
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#51 45
I stopped any use of PLA. I don't know how much better PLA+ is but with my success with ABS I think that is all I need. The M2A1 105mm howitzer in 1/16 scale is something my son gave me. He ordered it from the UK about 7 years ago. Lacking a lot of details, I decided to upgrade it. Being it was made of PLA it is brittle and doesn't seem to cement well with superglue. Thin parts are breaking as well as some thicker joints. I am printing the added parts in ABS and some brass shafts.
1/16 M2A
Lew
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#50 45
@EdW - What scale it the BMG?
Lew
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#49 45
@Fishercat -98% of the time I use ABS. It weld cements very well. Acetone works somewhat for welding but it evaporates too fast for a deep penetration. Superglue works well and it looks like it dissolves into the ABS because when I apply it to the ABS and wipe it with a paper towel a little black (ABS color I am using) comes off gooey. Some of the liquid and thicker tubes of hobby plastic cement (Testors, etc,) work very well.

The Acetone is good for vapor smoothing (I built a chamber) as well as dipping small parts in a small container using tweezers. Dip and hold for about 5 seconds, wait a few seconds, then dip again. This helps fill in any micro gaps making the parts smaller.
Lew
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#48 47
Thank Peter


Fond a setup for Cura for PLA+ on Ender 3 Pro.
Got the printer dialled in and getting great results

Regards
Ed
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#47 48
@LewZ that low odor ABS sounds attractive. I'm printing a boat now with Bambu ABS - not low odor. But my machine is set up in my basement, with the exhaust fan piped to an old shopvac hose which goes to an otherwise unused chimney flue (3D printed adapters at both ends). I then discovered that, normally, when running a heated chamber, the X2D doesn't run the exhaust fan. When I turned on the exhaust fan, it didn't have enough heating power to keep the chamber hot in my relatively cool basement. So, I draped the machine in a blanket. And, it's been perfect that way with the fan set at 40%.

I bought 10 rolls of Bambu ABS in bulk for $129 directly from Bambu.

The issue now is making sure that I'm using the right glues and paints for ABS, as a lot of the glues and paints.
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#46 51
@EdW Settings for EsunPLA+
Nozzle 210- 230℃
Build Platform Temperature 45-60°C
Fan Speed 100%
Printing Speed 40 - 100mm/s

Don't go too fast, Cheers
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#45 52
Fired up my 3D printer yesterday for the first time in anger since installing the 32bit silent motherboard and CR Touch self levelling. Really impressed but the print was very brittle, I have to experiment with the settings for PLA+ which I am using for the first time.
Ed
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#44 52
@Fishercat, et al. -
For my last order of ABS filament, I bought two rolls of non-toxic low odor ABS from QIDI's store.
Currently:
Odorless-ABS Rapido Filament – Formulated with low-odor, low-VOC technology and high Z-axis interlayer strength. On sale for around $21.99 – $25.99 (regularly $29.99).
Link:
https://qidi3d.com/products/qidi-tech-odorless-abs-rapido-filament
Lew
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#43 52
@PeterN, et al. -
No, I didn't. This is the same nozzle that came with the printer (0.4mm). I could go down but I read that stretching the filament that thin might cause clogging.
Lew
Florida, USA
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#42 58
I forgot new parts should be on my doorstep by the end of the week.
Once I have fitted the parts and double checked all is working , will a little luck I will be printing PET G
If after all that if the printer is still not working as it should its plan 'B' buy a new printer Col
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#41 58
Peter & Fishercat Many thanks for all the information and help , because the printer was second hand I'm now finding some parts had been replaced with cheap knock-ons from AliExpress . Also, part of the control system may have been loaded incorrectly.
A little good news while checking a few things out with the control it came up with one of those updates , now loaded it's running so much better .
Col
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#40 59
@ColRay PETG wants to be dried and stored dry. IT gets stringy and ugly when it's been picking up ambient humidity. Also, while it tends to make a very slightly more uneven print than PLA or ABS in my experience. It's a good material, and I can get it in bulk for $10 a kg from Elegoo.

I would avoid PLA. The regular kind will sag in direct sunlight. The High Temp kind should tolerate that, but both will "creep" over time under stress.

I'm using ABS right now simply because I couldn't get a fully warp free print out of PETG of a full hull section. The 220mm wide hull I'm working on has the coaming pulling back about 1.5 mm at the edge, though the rest of the print is OK. That's because it's shrinking so hard that it's pulling the plate off the print bed. I've played with settings and this has been the best I could do, at least so far. I think the problem is me, rather than the material.

ABS prints beautifully, and is also reasonably priced in bulk from Bambu, but requires a heated enclosed chamber and gives off toxic fumes while printing. Means I have to stay out of the workshop while printing until I put together a setup that vents outside. I also don't think it's quite got the layer adhesion of PETG. I'd be using PETG in a heartbeat if I could figure out how to get a fully warp free print.
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#39 59
@ColRay Hi Col
I had fine results with my old ender 5 pro so I don't see why you wouldn't be able to print PETG
I use a glass print bed but with the smooth side up (upside down) with 3DLac.
I do regularly clean the glass bed (dish soap + warm water + wipe dry with clean towel), make sure it is cooled down, and apply a thing layer of 3Dlac.
Make sure you have the right settings for PETG, initial fan speed I have at 0 for the first 4 layers, plate temp at 70 degrees C, print temp at 240 plus dial in the printing speeds.
Have a look at
Dirty bed smooth side up
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#38 60
I was told about PETG.. purchased a roll and I reckon that may have been the start of my problems.
The Ender printers with their basic control don't match up against BL Col
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#36 61
Something for those using FDM (filament) 3D printing for model boats. I just tried changing the settings on my QIDI X-Smart-3 FDM printer to give me better detail. Normally my lowest (best) factory setting was a maximum layer height of .12mm. (My factory preset layers can be switched from .12, .16, .20, and .25mm with "25" giving the fastest prints.) I created a new print setting file in the slicer and changed settings for a .06mm layer height and also dropped the print head speed down about 25% less as this machine is pretty fast. This resulted in a much improved finished part. Curved and tapered surfaces in the axis improved considerably with the 50% reduction of the layer height. Downside is the printing speed is much longer so I would do this only on selective parts.
This brings the FDM printer a little closer to resin printer quality.
17.6mm dia handwheel (unfinished, as printed in ABS)
Lew
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#34 64
Need to make some fittings for my pusher tug so unpacked my 3d printer. Decided to get an enclosure.
Ed
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#33 64
@DodgyGeezer Thanks your reply. I totally concur with your assessment. I tried that with 3mm aluminum rod. I don't need a hole for ther axle as it will be glued to a base or on top of the bollard of similar dia. I have a rather large wood lathe in the workshop but gave that up as I couldn't center the material properly due to its small size and the process is too tedious and takes me forever.
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#30 67
While a resin printer is capable of MUCH finder detail than a filament printer, there are 4 things that make a tremendous difference in the amount and quality of detail one gets out of one's filament prints.

First - layer height. For a standard .4mm nozzle, on my machine it varies from .08mm to .24mm. The smaller layers are, of course, much better looking. Second - print angle. Things printed against the bed of the printer have the texture of the bed. Things printed at very shallow angles show layers like little steps. And, the undersides of prints are always much rougher. So, it is often best to print parts at angles and use lots of supports. Third, switching to a .02mm nozzle also gives one noticeably nicer details, but does not work with fiber reinforced filaments. Fourth, carefully picking the filament and making sure it's absolutely dry will also help.

Two smaller improvements - one is using a second type of filament that doesn't adhere as an interface layer between supports and the part. However, this requires a second nozzle or it's painfully inefficient. The second is using a "quality" instead of "standard" preset.

Note that if you do all of these things, your print times will go up by a factor of 6 to 8. I find that completely acceptable - I set the printer to run overnight. Also, the latest generation of printers is FAR better at avoiding artifacts present in vertical surfaces - something that has plagued filament printers from the start.
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#29 67
@JockScott

Um. If I wanted a 3x3mm roller (with a 1mm hole through the middle for an axle), I would probably turn it on a lathe. But it's hardly worth £1,000 + just to be able to do that. If I didn't have a lathe I would buy 3mm stock and use a pillar drill, or get a 3mm brass tube and slide a 2mm tube inside to give me a 1mm hole. Spend on a lathe is not worth it unless you want to do a lot of rotational cutting...

I have a 3 axis CNC cutter because my hobby involves making model boats out of sheet materials, and a 3 axis cutter is the ideal machine for cutting complex shapes in flat sheets of wood or metal. If I wanted to make 3-D shapes with it I would need a 5 axis machine costing tens of thousands - again, not worth it.

So it comes down to a 3-D printer. The choice is fairly straightforward - do you want large, less detailed objects or smaller intricate ones? I typically make boats at 30" or less in size. and resin is the best way for me to produce the detailed fittings I need for a small model of perhaps 25" LOA. If I wanted whole hulls at 36" or more, printed in sections, a filament printer would be the cheaper, less messy way for me to go.

At the limit, you CAN print big sections of boat hulls with a resin printer (though check the base plate size), while you can't really print very small detail with a filament printer. You will find that a filament printer has a larger base plate, because it's optimised for this sort of work. But what is it you most want to do?

Note that a filament printer only has filament threads as running costs. while a resin printer needs resin (about twice the price of filament by volume, cleaning materials, UV hardening equipment and is generally more messy and smelly.

I enclose a pic of one of my resin printed Mk 32 torpedos for the EeZeBilt 20" PT Boat. Poor picture, but you might be able to see that the bolts (about the size of the ball in a ball point) are perfect hexagons

Here is a link to a youtube video showing the kind of detail you can get at lower sizes from a filament printer:

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=how+smallcan+you+make+detail+with+a+filament+printer%3F&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c26096d0,vid:Jw2_7sY4l10,st:0
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#28 68
@DodgyGeezer Thank you for the comprehensive info on the various printers. Sofar, based on the info provided by the members on this forum I tend to lean towards the Bambu A1 mini, however some of the material I like to reproduce are 3x3mm in size (roller to be place in inside the hawser hole for guiding the lines and onto bollard posts). For this purpose a mini metal lather would be probably better suited but not having a greatt deal experience in this field, I wonder if it is worth the expense. I also wondered getting it customs made.
Now I am worried the Bambu set up may not do the job. I have no problem cleaning up the pieces by sanding.
Other items like steam winch cylinder assemblies maybe be perfect on the other hand.
What do you think? Appreciate your advise
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#27 71
@IanL1

It may be worth rapidly documenting my experience with more sophisticated modelling tools ? Ask any further questions about them...

1 - I have a Seig C3 Arc Euro 7x14 Chinese lathe (Arc Euro now closed down, but 7x14 Chinese lathes are readily available). Lathes are messy and noisy machines, so I use it in an outside shed workshop. For boats, I make prop tube bearings, shafts and motor connectors on it. You need to learn how to use a lathe, and it's useful to have a tap/die set, a quick-change tool mount and a tailstock die holder. It works well.

2 - I have an eShapeoko CNC cutter - made up from a kit by Amber Spyglass https://amberspyglass.co.uk . The machine is slightly noisy but quite clean, so I use it in an attic workshop in the house. I made a kit up because an important feature of a cnc cutter is the base size, which limits what you can make. I wanted to cut keels and side skins for model boats, so I ordered one with a 1m 'Y' axis. You can get up to 1.5m as standard from Amber. It was the cheapest way I could find to obtain a machine which was suitable for model boat parts in sizes I wanted to make.

To make it up you need to be used to Meccano-type assembly and electronic soldering. You then need to learn to use a 2-d drafting package, save the result in GCode format and use the open source Gcode Sender to send instructions to the cutter. The Amber cutter frame can hold anything - laser cutters, milling tools or other cutters such as a vinyl knife - I use a small high-speed router bought off ebay for about £20.

Holding work firmly on the base is important. I mainly cut balsa sheets for my EeZeBilt boats and have made up a jig which holds 36"x4" balsa sheets. The whole process works well.

3 - I have a Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra Resin 3-D printer. It is a quiet but messy and slightly smelly machine, which is kept in a dedicated bedroom in the house (on a melamine easy-clean table). I used to have a Phrozen Sonic resin printer - and found that it was hard to set up and the prints would often fail. Eventually the LCD screen ( a critical part that has a shortish life) wore out and I got the Saturn. This is a much better machine, easy to set up and prints rarely fail.

To use it you need to learn to use a 3-D drafting package, then save the output in .STL format and pass it to a 'slicing' package (usually Chitubox) to create the instructions for the cutter. The parts are built onto a metal base which is repeatedly lowered into a bath of resin where layers are repeatedly added. When finished, you have to lever the sticky piece off the base, wash it in alcohol and put it in a UV enclosure to harden. This can be messy and smelly. The parts are made with fine detail, and the machine is suitable for making parts from about 1mm up to 150mm. Typically prints take an hour or so.

4 - I also have a Bambu Lab P1S (actually, my son's) sitting next to the Elegoo Saturn. This is a filament printer which works by moving a print-head over the metal base and squirting a tiny drop of melted plastic into position. This is less messy, but takes a longer time than a resin system - typically several hours. You use the same software to create a drawing and generate instructions for the machine, but you do not need to wash and harden the end product. It is more suitable for making parts with less detail but greater size - perhaps 30mm up to 300mm.

Each machine is optimal for its own specific application, but I find that I use the resin printer most often. It is ideal for model boat fittings from 1/4" to 6" in size, and can produce detail smaller than I can easily see.

For any specialist machine you need to learn how to operate it. But you do not necessarily have to learn how to draw up the parts you wish to make. You can download 3-D drawings off the net, either free or at a price. For EeZeBilt boats, my web site contains both free downloads for 3-D resin model boat fittings, and free downloads of the 2-D cnc cutting paterns for cutting the wood for model boat kits. My aim is that, with suitable modern machinery, anyone who wants an EeZeBilt kit that was available in the UK in the 1960s will be able to buy some wood, download the data from my site, and recreate their own kit at home...
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#26 72
Having gone thru several 3D printers in the last 8 years I know the limitations. however, most of my models are in the larger scale area, typical 1/16 for my armor and around the 1/14 - 1/25 scale for most of the boats. (I do have a few out of that range.) For those smaller scales an FDM printer the print jobs are going to be larger objects on the model. For smaller more detail intense the resin printer is the best way to go.

If one needs both but only want one printer, determine what you need the most and look for a printing source to make the other objects. That could be a friend (or family member) or a business (local or internet) that can do the other work. I used Shapeways at on time as they had high end printers (much better than resin), but I thinks they did themselves in.

As for size, my printer is about the size of a 2' X 2' X 2' cube. The print area is about the size of a 6-1/2" cube. Can be set up for a one time calibration or self calibrate before every print. It is fully enclosed (for filament that needs to be printed that way (my case ABS) with a door on the front that swings open. I am real happy with the QIDI X-Smart-3, which I have had for slightly over 3 years. (I did get a second X-Smart-3, still in the box) that QIDI sent to me for free because I gave them feedback on the one I am using. Regardless, of that I still think they are an excellent 3D printer for the money.)

A friend recently bought a Bambu multi color filaments printer (enclosed) for about $5000 (US).
QIDI X-Smart-3
Screen
With heater, back bottom right corner.
Lew
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#24 74
@ColRay Hi, I am not a computer electronics guru, just a simple engineer so I am not sure what you mean? I know it connects with my desk top computer, that I do the drawing on to create the programme. Maybe someone else could answer your querry. I just know it works well. Cheers Ian
Ian Langley
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#23 75
@ColRay just upgraded my old Creality Ender 5 Pro with an enclosure. The old machine still does the trick, maybe it is slow but it produces pretty accurate results and I have it dialed in pretty good. I did upgrade it with auto level, glass build plate (use 3d lac) and modified the extruder position.
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