Thanks Ron, nearly back up to speed now 😊
What have you been up to lately?
How's your 'apprentice' Michael getting on?
Cheers, Doug 😎

Get back on your feet soon! Always enjoy your posts.

Thanks Guys, much appreciated 👍
So you're THE ONE Charlie 😊👍
Doug

Sorry to hear that you have not been well Doug.
Hope you are back to 100% very soon.😉

Pleased to see that you are recovering, I do not have much to say on here mainly asking questions but I do read all the info that you say on here

So as I said if it LOOKS RIGHT it'll be right. Not many will carry chips or swatches to compare finishes anyway. Or will they?👍👍👍

Agreed John👍 especially in the Pacific colours faded rapidly.
Depends if you want 'as built' / 'freshly painted' or 'in action'.
"Not many people would spot or even know the difference anyway."
Trouble is 'We do!' 😁
Cheers, Doug 😎
BTW the mix proportions, of those colours not yard premixed, are given in one of the links I gave. For scale models it seems to be generally accepted to lighten the basic colours a little, have seen 10 to 20% white depending on darkness of the base colour, to give more impression of distance and hence more realism on the wet stuff.

Even batches of supposedly the same colour from the same maker can vary amazingly. I've seen this with my own eyes. The usual trick was to mix batches together so shades varied from ship to ship. I'd just go with whatever takes your fancy as long as it looks ok. Remember weathering affects colours strongly so even different parts of decks etc can appear a different shade. Don't be too concerned about the RIGHT colour. Not many people would spot or even know the difference anyway.
Regards John👍😎 PS these make a big difference LOL

Hi peter,
'Deck Blue' changed a few times over the years, there are lighter and darker shades depending on the theatre of operations and if detection from the air was paramount or not. Later in the war, when the axis air forces were largely destroyed and the allies had overwhelming air superiority the emphasis moved to the vertical surfaces to confuse subs and the few remaining surface ships the axis had.
Then the emphasis switched back to the horizontal surfaces when the Kamikaze attacks developed. So probably the lighter Pacific variant is what you need for USS Kid at the end of the war.
You are lucky that Kidd has been preserved as a museum ship in her 'end of war' state 👍 if you Google USS Kidd I'm sure you'll find the museum site with more colour pics.
Also, the display on different web sites will depend on many variables, for instance:-
How the sample was photographed; white balance, colour balance, lighting; intensity and type - Kelvin temperature etc.
How the photos are digitally interpreted and integrated in the web site.
The times of 'The camera never lies' are unfortunately long over!

Added to that is how your PC or Dumbphone/tablet displays the web site, similar problems;-
Type of display, colour / contrast / brilliance settings etc etc. Power saving settings can affect these!
If I were you I would use the Measure 22 scheme as shown on the colour pic and described on the Wiki page. That's apparently what the USN went back to when the kamikaze attacks started.
Your basic choice is enamel = Colour Coats, or Acrylic = LifeColor 😉
Personally, I would go for the 1944 dazzle scheme cos it's more interesting and unusual, but then I'm just NUTS! 😁
Cheers, Doug 😎
PS Hofbrauhaus is for the tourists! I've been there maybe three times in 38 years?
Once on my very first visit to Munich in 1980, then, after I started working here in 1985, only with customers who insisted on going there.
Too loud and expensive, there are many better, less touristic, ones in Munich. Prost allseits!
PPS haven't been to the Oktoberfest for years for similar reasons!
30 years ago it was still fun, but not now 🤔

Many thanks once again Doug, there is certainly a large choice of colours, it's strange when the same colour listing is a different shade from two suppliers, deck blue by sovereignhobbies is more like a turquoise, it all comes down to 'you pay your money and you take your choice',
btw, hope you're not spending too much time in the Hoffbrau Haus
cheers Peter😊

Hi Doug!Sorry you're crook. Me too it's left me with a mucky chest and I've to see the anaesthetist on Monday as part of another preop assessment. Love the info re paint but isn't it confusing?
Keep on getting better m8👍

Thanks Dennis, glad you enjoy my 'rhubarb & waffles' 😁
Hope some of it is useful to you.
Cheers, Doug 😎

Evenin' Peter,
Thanks 😉 Not quite 100% yet but getting there. Fit enough to answer your question I think, mainly cos I just bought a bunch of RN and USN paints meself😁
First off, have a shufti at this link, it details all 'Measures' up to # 23 near the end of the Pacific war. There's also a colour pic of USS Kidd wearing Measure 22 which was used on Destroyer Escorts (DE) at the time.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/World_War_II_ship_camouflage_measures_of_the_United_States_Navy
In 1944 it was replaced by a Dazzle pattern on the Fletchers, Measure 32, similar to RN Western Approaches pattern, until 1945 when they reverted to Measure 22 but with the revised Haze Gray.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/World_War_II_US_Navy_dazzle_camouflage_measures_31,_32_and_33:_destroyers

I also attach attach a colour chart from Sovereign Hobbies who took over the White Ensign Colour Coats range of navy enamel paints. Have a look at page 6.
They are made by Snyder & Short from authentic Navy Paint Chips apparently. I just bought a bunch of them in RN colours for my 'Plastic Magic' conversions. Get 'em here-
https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk/collections/colourcoats-sea/american

If you prefer acrylic have a look at the LifeColor Sets # CS24 and CS25 'US Navy WWII'. Chart and catalogue attached. get here for instance-
https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/lifecolor-paint-sets/43947-us-navy-wwii-set-1
Happy painting, cheers, Doug 😎

Good to see you back on form again Doug👍, was hoping you can assist with my USS KIDD Fletcher class destroyer from Deans Marine, got to the point of painting and the suggestion is measure 22 which I think is blue? but also what colour are the decks, again it mentions blue? seems to be rather a lot of......er....blue, but the b&w photo shows the upper sections in grey, haze grey is mentioned, what is haze grey?
Would like her in the colour at the end of the war😊

cheers Peter😁

Good to know you are ok Doug, I enjoy your blogs and your choice of Tina Turner, enjoy life to the full.

Sorry to hear you've been a bit crook, mate. Get back in the harness soon, eh?

Martin

Thanks Doug. That's useful stuff.
Cheers Colin.

Hi Colin,
According to Taycol specs (see attached)
Height of shaft centre above base is 1 1/4"
Bolt hole centres fore and aft 3 1/2"
Bolt hole centres athwartships 2 3/16".
If I measure any difference with yours I'll let you know pronto.
Cheers, Doug 😎

Cheers mate, I'll look forward to making a mock motor to align with the prop shaft ready for the real thing.
Don't worry about the dims if you're not too well. All the best for now, Colin.

Many thanks for your kind words Guys, 😊

Michael; as we used to see so often on our TV screens back then-
"Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible!"
To paraphrase my German friends 'It goes me much better now'😁
BTW, I finished the sausage about 11 years ago, Gisela was struggling with the other half and her camera! Taken in the Olympia Hall just before an Eagles concert, or was it Santana? 😲 Could even have been Tina Turner's last concert, long time ago now!

Colin; I'll measure up and mail you the details shortly. All the best for your OP 👍 "We have the technology - WE CAN REBUILD HiM!!"

All the best, Doug 😎

Hope you feel better soon mate, have started on my commander, I think about 3 weeks and should be ready to start rebuild. Have you got the dimensions for the supermarine base mounting points and height of shaft centre line would be helpful. No rush on getting it finished as you know I go for my knee operation on the 18th. Apparently they have free WiFi for the patients so at least I can keep following the boating news.
Cheers Colin

I assumed you were on holiday Doug, however hope your feeling better because there are questions to be answered and problems to be solved and inspiration to be shared!!!! finish that sausage and get on with it 😁
all the best Michael

Hi Martin,
I'm still around👍
But not been too good lately so taking things slow and quiet, which is also how the site seemed to me lately, and no topics that inspired me to mix in🤔
Thanks for asking Mate 👍 Cheers, Doug 😎