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I've just glued and tacked the starboard side in place.
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Cheers, Nerys
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I am currently building a live steam tugboat which has a curved strake running round the stern. An obvious candidate for bending from the centre.
I used part of that previously cursed plastic tube with an end cap forced on, rather than glued. I stood this up in a jug to catch the leaks this time! Filled with boiling water, dropped in the plank and placed a piece of tape over the top to stop the plank floating out. After 5 minutes most of the 400mm plank was extremely flexible.
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Don't forget that your ship model has two layers of planking. Although manufacturers show a hammer and nails planking job on the first lime layer, there is nothing to stop you doing a very careful planking job as if it were the "show layer". Make your mistakes where they can be hidden. You're also building the same hull as the final layer, so get a trial run of bending those bow planks. A full dress rehearsal for no extra cost.
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https://www.mantuamodel.co.uk/products/ship-fittings/lifeboats/858/life-boat-detail
The price won't break the bank, what do you think?
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There are some Chinese kits on eBay if you search "wood model boat kit". These are cheaper and a bit bigger in general. The one pictured is about nine inches long.
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Thanks for the pic. A good idea to try something smaller first perhaps. I take it they are both from kits?
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A while ago I ordered some metal rod which came in a 1metre long plastic tube, which I thought would make a full length plank soaker.
I glued the end cap in place so it wouldn't leak, stood it up in my shed (workshop), filled it with hot water and dropped in a length of lime to try it out. On turning round to check the progress, my foot splashed in something. The tube had softened with the hot water, breaking my waterproof seal at the bottom.
The floor needed a wash anyway!
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This pair are Russian Navy surplus and come in a lovely fitted wooden box.
The knurled screw is loosened and the pivot block moved to the desired number. This sets the "proportion" between top and bottom points. For example, set at four, the long arms are set to the line to measure and the short arms then indicate one quarter of that length. As you can see, this pair go up to ten, but are a a bit ungainly at this setting and can slip. They're better at at below eight as they lock more firmly.
Photo now added to appropriate post.
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Nerys
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As most serious bending is within the end 6 inches whether bow or stern, a tall mug is plenty tall enough. In 50 years of buiding I have never needed to steam the middle of a plank. The water does cool down, but as I never fit more than one plank per side per day, that isn't an issue.
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Don't use map pins, they make a big hole. Dressmaking pins can be bought with coloured ball ends. They are about as fine as pins get so leave only tiny holes. Usually re-wetting the plank is enough to swell the grain and make the pinholes disappear.
There are some horrible planking practices advocated by kit manufacturers, most involving full width planks from bulwarks to about half way round the frames. They then start with more full width planks from the keel up. The remaining gap is then filled in with more full width planks in crescent shapes. This is not scale and would never have survived a bump against the dock wall. Harold Underhill's book gives a masterclass on the subject.
"Briefly". You can plank the bulwarks to a little below the deck level with full width planks. Then measure the length around each frame, by wrapping with a strip of paper and marking the length with a pencil. Do this for each frame. Find the "longest" midships frame and divide by the width of your planks. This is the minimum number of planks you will need to cover the remaining space.
(I say midships as frames in the "dead wood" area of the keel, just in front of the rudder, are usually longer than those midships. Here you can leave the plank full width and allow them to take (almost) their natural curve, leaving a wedge shaped gap with the previous plank. Try to make the wide end of the gap the same as the plank width. A tapered plank can be inserted here. They're true to scale and called "stealers".)
Divide each frame length by this number to get the plank width at each frame location. Mark this onto the plank. I repeat the measuring process for each new plank. By remeasuring the frame distance you eliminate errors rather than amplifying them. Once you get down to ten planks or so, you can use proportional dividers if you have them.
At this stage you are OK trimming the plank from just one side. I use a miniature woodplane for this, rather than a knife. Don't forget that you're planking round a curve, so plank edges need a slight bevel to allow them to fit snuggly to the adjacent plank.
Then soak the plank.
Just take your time and remember to breathe! You'll be fine!
Why not try something smaller as a challenge? (See pic) The in-progress boat at the front is 65mm long.
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cheers, Nerys
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Can you tell me how you fix the second planks? Jotika recommend using medium super glue, being very aware of the drying time. The alternative is using pins but then you have the holes to contend with.
If my planking comes anywhere close to yours I shall be well pleased!
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Plank benders come in two main types; not very good and useless!
Avoid the pliers type like the plague. They simply snap the plank every few millimetres, permitting a facetted bend over the frames.
The Amati plank bender is two rollers with three stepped diameters. One roller is inverted so that they "mesh", large to small, medium to medium and small to large. This supposedly gives three different curvatures for the planks, as you simply wind them through. A nice theory, if only life were so simple.
In my opinion you already have the right advise, soak them. Dry bending is a waste of time and wood. Tighter bends can then be introduced by lightly pressing the plank against the shaft of a soldering iron. There is a commercially available tool that looks like a soldering iron with a chunky cylindrical bit on the end. That one will be OK I'm sure. I keep thinking of buying that one myself. The added heat on the wet plank, steams the plank from inside. Once cool, the bend remains, allowing the plank to be dry fitted against the hull. It can then be glued with almost no pinning or clamping.
I can recommend a good book on the subject; Plank on Frame Models - Volume 1 , by Harold Underhill. If you're going to learn, learn from the master.
Photo is planking on my latest build.
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Will be starting the new venture in the next few days.
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Now is the time to learn new skills, so I have purchased HMS Cruiser from Jotika's (aka Caldercraft ) 'Nelson's Navy'.
http://www.jotika-ltd.com/Pages/1024768/Nelson_2.htm
One of the main jobs, of course, is to plank the hull.
Jotika does not advocate the use of plank benders, but instructs soaking the wood.
I would welcome your views and any experiences?
Thank you.
Steve
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