Hi Tony,
Your Dragon planking is coming on well, she's beginning to look really good and showing off her lovely lines to good effect. Good choice of timber in my opinion.
Keep up the good work.
Nerys
Hi Tony,
Your Dragon planking is coming on well, she's beginning to look really good and showing off her lovely lines to good effect. Good choice of timber in my opinion.
Keep up the good work.
Nerys
When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
Hi All, Here's part 2 of my Dragon build -planking. The transom is mahogany and the planking is basswood, the ribs and frames are pine. I invested in a bandsaw before starting this project -an Einhell and cut my planking using a 32 tpi blade. The frames and fitting ribs are held in place by the stops you can see on the building board, and until the planking was finished hadn't glued the keel and spine & the motor shaft and copper tube were a push fit only -which was just as well as you will see in Part 3!
Used a PVA strong glue to glue the planks to the ribs, stem and stern. When the pins were removed the sanding before white undercoating covered up all the holes -in the next stage the hull will be lifted from the board turned over and a jig made -then I can start thinking about what I'll do with the inside!
Regards,
Tony A..........
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Hi All, Here's part 2 of my Dragon build -planking. The transom is mahogany and the planking is basswood, the ribs and frames are pine. I invested in a bandsaw before starting this project -an Einhell and cut my planking using a 32 tpi blade. The frames and fitting ribs are held in place by the stops you can see on the building board, and until the planking was finished hadn't glued the keel and spine & the motor shaft and copper tube were a push fit only -which was just as well as you will see in Part 3!
Used a PVA strong glue to glue the planks to the ribs, stem and stern. When the pins were removed the sanding before white undercoating covered up all the holes -in the next stage the hull will be lifted from the board turned over and a jig made -then I can start thinking about what I'll do with the inside!
Tony,
That's what I thought you would do, looks best. If you have problems tacking as Ron is having, if you don't want to use the motor, why not mount the rudder separately further aft a la most model yachts, Dragonforce etc. No longer a pure Dragon, but you killed that by installing a motor.
Cheers,
Nerys
Tony,
That's what I thought you would do, looks best. If you have problems tacking as Ron is having, if you don't want to use the motor, why not mount the rudder separately further aft a la most model yachts, Dragonforce etc. No longer a pure Dragon, but you killed that by installing a motor.
Cheers,
Nerys
When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
Hi Nerys, it's installed through the stern post and the rudder is cavitated to give the propeller clearance.
Regards,
Tony A...........
Hi Tony, After what Ron has said, I don't blame you installing a motor. Are you taking the tube through the sternpost or out on one side? I motorised my full size Dragon by mounting an outboard on the end of her counter stern. Worked well for pushing me up and down Oare Creek in a head wind. The purists didn't approve, but neither did they of the 6 metre class yacht in full racing trim with an old Seagull outboard mounted on the side of the yacht and accessible from the steering position.
Cheers, Nerys
Hi Tony, After what Ron has said, I don't blame you installing a motor. Are you taking the tube through the sternpost or out on one side? I motorised my full size Dragon by mounting an outboard on the end of her counter stern. Worked well for pushing me up and down Oare Creek in a head wind. The purists didn't approve, but neither did they of the 6 metre class yacht in full racing trim with an old Seagull outboard mounted on the side of the yacht and accessible from the steering position.
Cheers, Nerys
When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
Hi Tony,
Evidently 'Bluebottle' had a year long restoration by David Heritage Racing Yachts on the Isle of Wight. It wass originally intended that she would be ready for the Edinburgh Cup Races in Edinburgh in 2020, but covid stopped that. She reappeared at Cowes Week this year and finished the week with three wins, two seconds and a fourth, not bad for a 73 year old yacht competing with a load of youngsters. She is now rejoining 'Coweslip', the Duke's Flying Fifteen and his Ocean Racing Yacht 'Bloodhound' in Leith together with that other boat relating to the Royal Family, 'Britannia'.
Cheers, Nerys
Hi Tony,
Evidently 'Bluebottle' had a year long restoration by David Heritage Racing Yachts on the Isle of Wight. It wass originally intended that she would be ready for the Edinburgh Cup Races in Edinburgh in 2020, but covid stopped that. She reappeared at Cowes Week this year and finished the week with three wins, two seconds and a fourth, not bad for a 73 year old yacht competing with a load of youngsters. She is now rejoining 'Coweslip', the Duke's Flying Fifteen and his Ocean Racing Yacht 'Bloodhound' in Leith together with that other boat relating to the Royal Family, 'Britannia'.
Cheers, Nerys
When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
Hi Gerhard,
I'll be posting again shortly -do you plan to build an RC Dragon?
Regards,
Tony A.........
Tony A.....
Ich werde mir das ansehen, weil ich die Bluebottle und einen anderen Dragon Plan habe (Fotos reduziert). Gute Gelingt Gerhard
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Ich werde mir das ansehen, weil ich die Bluebottle und einen anderen Dragon Plan habe (Fotos reduziert). Gute Gelingt Gerhard
Hi Nerys,
I've been reading your posts over the months and delighted to know you are getting out and about despite your health problems. Re the renovated Bluebottle, I've not seen it, even though I've been out on the Solent waters over past months and at the Cowes weekend. No doubt it's back in Leith now. As for cheating.... well, necessary if I'm to have a fighting chance to have the model sail well. I'll be posting again shortly part 2 of the build.
Regards,
Tony A.........
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Hi Nerys,
I've been reading your posts over the months and delighted to know you are getting out and about despite your health problems. Re the renovated Bluebottle, I've not seen it, even though I've been out on the Solent waters over past months and at the Cowes weekend. No doubt it's back in Leith now. As for cheating.... well, necessary if I'm to have a fighting chance to have the model sail well. I'll be posting again shortly part 2 of the build.
I would suggest that the alterations you are making to the plan are going to go a long way to obviate the problems that Ron, the builder of the Billings Dragen on this site is having, but on the other hand are you expecting problems and cheating by the sacreligious addition of a motor. No doubt Johan Anker, the designer of the Dragon and Camper and Nicholson would be horrified. Who am I to talk, I converted a dragon into a gaff rigged cruising yacht.
Incidentally, I remember 'Bluebottle' visiting and racing with my then club, the Medway Yacht Club (mid 50's), and I see that she has undergone a complete restoration and was racing again at Cowes Week in 2021.
Nerys
I would suggest that the alterations you are making to the plan are going to go a long way to obviate the problems that Ron, the builder of the Billings Dragen on this site is having, but on the other hand are you expecting problems and cheating by the sacreligious addition of a motor. No doubt Johan Anker, the designer of the Dragon and Camper and Nicholson would be horrified. Who am I to talk, I converted a dragon into a gaff rigged cruising yacht.
Incidentally, I remember 'Bluebottle' visiting and racing with my then club, the Medway Yacht Club (mid 50's), and I see that she has undergone a complete restoration and was racing again at Cowes Week in 2021.
Nerys
When the winds before the rain, soon you may make sail again, but when the rain's before the wind, tops'l sheets and halyards mind
Hi All,
it's six months since I last posted, and for each of those months I've had intention of advising my build progress, but sadly, work and my membership of the Maritime Volunteer Service has got in the way, not to mention such time as I have had to myself dedicated to modelling.
The plan I've been building from the Nexus Plans Service, the 1/0th scale Dragon Yacht designed by A E Palmer taken from Camper & Nicholson's plans of Prince Philip's 'Bluebottle'. A Christmas present!
From the start I planned to deviate from the plan to some extent. As you can see in pic 1 the keel and backbone, weighted as per plan 1.5 lbs, shows the weight able to be lowered, so the centre of buoyancy would be lower than advised on the plan -it can be pinned back flush with the root of the keel or lowered if the winds demand. The rudder is slightly bigger than the plan, and as you can see I'm installing a motor -for two reasons (1) to prevent the bow from being damaged against pond sides, and (2) to aid tacking as required. The wood is iroko -left overs from my schooner build.
In pic 2 you can see the keel and backbone set up on my building board. In pic 3 you can see the frames -what I did here was cut the ribs and frames as close fitting pieces, taped them, and as you will see later the building frame part can be taken out after planking has been completed and the hull removed from the building board. All frames and ribs are from good quality pine -not your B&Q stuff!
That's all for now.. if interest is shown I'll detail how the build has progressed and the problems I've had to overcome!
I've been reading with interest Ron's build -some of the ideas expressed have been very helpful.
Regards,
Tony A...........
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Hi All,
it's six months since I last posted, and for each of those months I've had intention of advising my build progress, but sadly, work and my membership of the Maritime Volunteer Service has got in the way, not to mention such time as I have had to myself dedicated to modelling.
The plan I've been building from the Nexus Plans Service, the 1/0th scale Dragon Yacht designed by A E Palmer taken from Camper & Nicholson's plans of Prince Philip's 'Bluebottle'. A Christmas present!
From the start I planned to deviate from the plan to some extent. As you can see in pic 1 the keel and backbone, weighted as per plan 1.5 lbs, shows the weight able to be lowered, so the centre of buoyancy would be lower than advised on the plan -it can be pinned back flush with the root of the keel or lowered if the winds demand. The rudder is slightly bigger than the plan, and as you can see I'm installing a motor -for two reasons (1) to prevent the bow from being damaged against pond sides, and (2) to aid tacking as required. The wood is iroko -left overs from my schooner build.
In pic 2 you can see the keel and backbone set up on my building board. In pic 3 you can see the frames -what I did here was cut the ribs and frames as close fitting pieces, taped them, and as you will see later the building frame part can be taken out after planking has been completed and the hull removed from the building board. All frames and ribs are from good quality pine -not your B&Q stuff!
That's all for now.. if interest is shown I'll detail how the build has progressed and the problems I've had to overcome!
I've been reading with interest Ron's build -some of the ideas expressed have been very helpful.
