gearbox fitted, tested today with 8.4v graupner, running on 19.2v nimh. GPS Data logger installed, measured at 14.63mph, sound like a jet turbine!!, and this video was the slower of the 2 props tested.
Improvements with gearbox, motor is stone cold (it is water cooled, but was still hot as direct drive) , quieter, longer run time, esc cold, now able to upgrade from 2 blade 40mm prop to 3 blade, and possibly 4 blade, amp draw much less. Video taken at Newsham Park, Liverpool. Handling is now difficult, as its going way too fast, but its great fun! and might go faster, with the motor thats been fited tonight, watch this space!!
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gearbox fitted, tested today with 8.4v graupner, running on 19.2v nimh. GPS Data logger installed, measured at 14.63mph, sound like a jet turbine!!, and this video was the slower of the 2 props tested.
Improvements with gearbox, motor is stone cold (it is water cooled, but was still hot as direct drive) , quieter, longer run time, esc cold, now able to upgrade from 2 blade 40mm prop to 3 blade, and possibly 4 blade, amp draw much less. Video taken at Newsham Park, Liverpool. Handling is now difficult, as its going way too fast, but its great fun! and might go faster, with the motor thats been fited tonight, watch this space!!
well that was the distant memory of brushed motors!, way back when we had gas lanterns instead of LED's 😀
Unfortunately I cant remember the ratio, I think it was 2:1 from memory. it was later converted to brushless. Has not been run for two years since the bigger brother fireboat came along. I keep thinking just put a brushed motor back in it, and have plodding speed, it looks silly doing all that porpoising, and the bigger brother can give me my speed fix 😁
well that was the distant memory of brushed motors!, way back when we had gas lanterns instead of LED's 😀
Unfortunately I cant remember the ratio, I think it was 2:1 from memory. it was later converted to brushless. Has not been run for two years since the bigger brother fireboat came along. I keep thinking just put a brushed motor back in it, and have plodding speed, it looks silly doing all that porpoising, and the bigger brother can give me my speed fix 😁
Maybe a little more bow weight would stop the problem , my Spearfish used to do that all I did was put lipo length ways and it stopped , but yeah if your happy with the bigger being the faster then go for it 😊
Maybe a little more bow weight would stop the problem , my Spearfish used to do that all I did was put lipo length ways and it stopped , but yeah if your happy with the bigger being the faster then go for it 😊
This is my Sea Hornet which was rescued from Ebay see photo 1. Gray (Froggyt996) recognised it as a Sea Hornet even with the hideous cabin attched which the prvious owner had made. Also see the propshaft angle in photo 1 - would this have ever worked? Gray again restored this for me, I wanted a mahogany boat which looked like an italian speedboat and this is what he did for me see photo 2. Photo 3 sees the Sea Hornet on the sea at Southsea just after the start of the Round Britain Race in 2008. The receiver battery failed and a very nice Lifeboat Man from Southsea happened to be watching me run the boat and rescued it when it stopped running. it was put in dry dock over this winter to be tidied up again after a couple of years constant use and photo 4 sees it with its 2 new screens, re-varnished and 2 new rubbing strake. it is powered by 2 Graupner Speed 600 motors, a Ripmax sea sprint watercooled speed controller and 2 x 3 blade prop shop props on 2 x light weight shafts. it is also filled with bouyancy foam it case the inevitable happens which makes it quite heavy. it is ran on 2 x 8.4 volts nicad sticks and gives me a running time of approx. 20 minutes with quite a good turn of speed.
Marie (alias Mrs Froggyt996)
{"text":"This is my Sea Hornet which was rescued from Ebay see photo 1. Gray (Froggyt996) recognised it as a Sea Hornet even with the hideous cabin attched which the prvious owner had made. Also see the propshaft angle in photo 1 - would this have ever worked? Gray again restored this for me, I wanted a mahogany boat which looked like an italian speedboat and this is what he did for me see photo 2. Photo 3 sees the Sea Hornet on the sea at Southsea just after the start of the Round Britain Race in 2008. The receiver battery failed and a very nice Lifeboat Man from Southsea happened to be watching me run the boat and rescued it when it stopped running. it was put in dry dock over this winter to be tidied up again after a couple of years constant use and photo 4 sees it with its 2 new screens, re-varnished and 2 new rubbing strake. it is powered by 2 Graupner Speed 600 motors, a Ripmax sea sprint watercooled speed controller and 2 x 3 blade prop shop props on 2 x light weight shafts. it is also filled with bouyancy foam it case the inevitable happens which makes it quite heavy. it is ran on 2 x 8.4 volts nicad sticks and gives me a running time of approx. 20 minutes with quite a good turn of speed.\r\nMarie (alias Mrs Froggyt996)","subject":"Aerokits Sea Hornet (Riva version)","media":[{"id":"1235227265","name":"1235227265.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227265/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227265/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1235227266","name":"1235227266.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227266/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227266/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1235227267","name":"1235227267.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227267/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227267/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1235227268","name":"1235227268.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227268/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1235227268/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"}],"youtubeUrl":""}
This is my Sea Hornet which was rescued from Ebay see photo 1. Gray (Froggyt996) recognised it as a Sea Hornet even with the hideous cabin attched which the prvious owner had made. Also see the propshaft angle in photo 1 - would this have ever worked? Gray again restored this for me, I wanted a mahogany boat which looked like an italian speedboat and this is what he did for me see photo 2. Photo 3 sees the Sea Hornet on the sea at Southsea just after the start of the Round Britain Race in 2008. The receiver battery failed and a very nice Lifeboat Man from Southsea happened to be watching me run the boat and rescued it when it stopped running. it was put in dry dock over this winter to be tidied up again after a couple of years constant use and photo 4 sees it with its 2 new screens, re-varnished and 2 new rubbing strake. it is powered by 2 Graupner Speed 600 motors, a Ripmax sea sprint watercooled speed controller and 2 x 3 blade prop shop props on 2 x light weight shafts. it is also filled with bouyancy foam it case the inevitable happens which makes it quite heavy. it is ran on 2 x 8.4 volts nicad sticks and gives me a running time of approx. 20 minutes with quite a good turn of speed.
Marie (alias Mrs Froggyt996)
Hi" there, I like your sea hornet " You have done a brilliant restoration job on it 👍 . What was the last owner thinking of when he put that propshaft in and that hatch cover on the top 😯 ?
Anyway I have just bought one like this and looking forward in restoreing mine too !! Hopefully it should look as good as yours !
Albert .
Hi" there, I like your sea hornet " You have done a brilliant restoration job on it 👍 . What was the last owner thinking of when he put that propshaft in and that hatch cover on the top 😯 ?
Anyway I have just bought one like this and looking forward in restoreing mine too !! Hopefully it should look as good as yours !
Albert .
I have only just come accross this,she has a 600 size motor,electronize esc,and she runs on a 7.2 volt stick battery,,she is actually built by the previous owner,,daz
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I have only just come accross this,she has a 600 size motor,electronize esc,and she runs on a 7.2 volt stick battery,,she is actually built by the previous owner,,daz
first tests (after build started 30 yrs ago !) showed great speed and great handling too but short battery life on 12v set up and 700 series motor so now testing with 6v that gives less speed but much longer running.
Sea Hornet with Graupner 540 series motor also undergoing tests and both models have needed 40A ESC to handle current draw.
{"text":"first tests (after build started 30 yrs ago !) showed great speed and great handling too but short battery life on 12v set up and 700 series motor so now testing with 6v that gives less speed but much longer running. \r\n\r\nSea Hornet with Graupner 540 series motor also undergoing tests and both models have needed 40A ESC to handle current draw.","subject":"Aerokits 34 Fireboat first trials with new power set up","media":[{"id":"1233353887","name":"1233353887.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1233353887/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1233353887/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1233353888","name":"1233353888.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1233353888/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1233353888/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1233353889","name":"1233353889.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1233353889/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1233353889/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"}],"youtubeUrl":""}
Aerokits 34 Fireboat first trials with new power set up
first tests (after build started 30 yrs ago !) showed great speed and great handling too but short battery life on 12v set up and 700 series motor so now testing with 6v that gives less speed but much longer running.
Sea Hornet with Graupner 540 series motor also undergoing tests and both models have needed 40A ESC to handle current draw.
here is my Fireboat after extensive testing of motors, batteries and props. Full details in "power set up".
Its about to have a gearbox fitted, this should enable me to fit a larger prop, and get longer run times, hopfully!
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this model has a 12v marlin motor I am in the process of fitting esc and batterys old kit the gun was from nauticalmarinemodels the figures will be the modifyed
airfix 8th army 1/32 multipose figures painted in a med garb I sail at the southport model boat weather permiting
{"text":"this model has a 12v marlin motor I am in the process of fitting esc and batterys old kit the gun was from nauticalmarinemodels the figures will be the modifyed\r\nairfix 8th army 1/32 multipose figures painted in a med garb I sail at the southport model boat weather permiting","subject":"perkasa 1/32 scale the wooden one","media":[{"id":"1232637415","name":"1232637415.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1232637415/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1232637415/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1232637416","name":"1232637416.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1232637416/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1232637416/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1232637417","name":"1232637417.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1232637417/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1232637417/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"}],"youtubeUrl":""}
this model has a 12v marlin motor I am in the process of fitting esc and batterys old kit the gun was from nauticalmarinemodels the figures will be the modifyed
airfix 8th army 1/32 multipose figures painted in a med garb I sail at the southport model boat weather permiting
This is a video of my completed Seaplane Tender on Bournville Boating lake in Birmingham.
The boat was completed just a few weeks ago, but the weather hasn't been right for boating.
The boat is powered by a 7.2V 400 motor and a 7.2V 1600Mah battery.
{"text":"This is a video of my completed Seaplane Tender on Bournville Boating lake in Birmingham.\r\n\r\nThe boat was completed just a few weeks ago, but the weather hasn't been right for boating.\r\n\r\nThe boat is powered by a 7.2V 400 motor and a 7.2V 1600Mah battery.","subject":"Seaplane Tender","media":[],"youtubeUrl":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icXToZHuk4Q"}
this boat started as a kingston mouldings hull of the
p28 fast patrol boat you get hull and plan the rest is up to the builder it is twin shafts twin rudders one speed controller a jel 6v 7amp battery AND two
545 motors
{"text":"this boat started as a kingston mouldings hull of the\r\np28 fast patrol boat you get hull and plan the rest is up to the builder it is twin shafts twin rudders one speed controller a jel 6v 7amp battery AND two\r\n545 motors","subject":"my scratch built 1/20 scale vietnam boat","media":[{"id":"1230214203","name":"1230214203.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1230214203/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1230214203/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1230214204","name":"1230214204.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1230214204/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1230214204/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1230214205","name":"1230214205.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1230214205/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1230214205/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"}],"youtubeUrl":""}
this boat started as a kingston mouldings hull of the
p28 fast patrol boat you get hull and plan the rest is up to the builder it is twin shafts twin rudders one speed controller a jel 6v 7amp battery AND two
545 motors
The boat is a scratch built and started life in the shed. it is a semiscale model at aprox 36inch, built with balsa wood.It is full remote control and fitted with two Mtroniks Vision 600 motors one 12volt 7ah battery,one seasprint esc.
It was built as a fun boat so I could sail with my friend Peter thomas with his variuos boats.
Several things have now been added since this boat was first built, IE smoking stacks, fireing torpedoes and magnetic pickups for colecting them. Also has working radar/moving gun + a home built bec.
Flag poles and flags/compas has been added on the superstructure.
Each motor draws 6amps at full power, I have measured the speed from one point to another at a spacing of 60mtrs, and timed at 15 seconds, but this is a bit fast for this boat as she starts to plane out of the water.
We sail her at New Brighton lake on the wirral most wednesdays. As the weather is now a bit cool I have just purchased a simular model to this at 1:48 scale 110ft island class USCG Patrol boat so I can look at them both in action when the weather picks up. Anyone wanting info can contact me via this website.
{"text":"The boat is a scratch built and started life in the shed. it is a semiscale model at aprox 36inch, built with balsa wood.It is full remote control and fitted with two Mtroniks Vision 600 motors one 12volt 7ah battery,one seasprint esc.\r\nIt was built as a fun boat so I could sail with my friend Peter thomas with his variuos boats.\r\nSeveral things have now been added since this boat was first built, IE smoking stacks, fireing torpedoes and magnetic pickups for colecting them. Also has working radar/moving gun + a home built bec.\r\nFlag poles and flags/compas has been added on the superstructure.\r\nEach motor draws 6amps at full power, I have measured the speed from one point to another at a spacing of 60mtrs, and timed at 15 seconds, but this is a bit fast for this boat as she starts to plane out of the water. \r\nWe sail her at New Brighton lake on the wirral most wednesdays. As the weather is now a bit cool I have just purchased a simular model to this at 1:48 scale 110ft island class USCG Patrol boat so I can look at them both in action when the weather picks up. Anyone wanting info can contact me via this website.","subject":"vigilant star test 3","media":[],"youtubeUrl":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMPPJ3GVsjk"}
The boat is a scratch built and started life in the shed. it is a semiscale model at aprox 36inch, built with balsa wood.It is full remote control and fitted with two Mtroniks Vision 600 motors one 12volt 7ah battery,one seasprint esc.
It was built as a fun boat so I could sail with my friend Peter thomas with his variuos boats.
Several things have now been added since this boat was first built, IE smoking stacks, fireing torpedoes and magnetic pickups for colecting them. Also has working radar/moving gun + a home built bec.
Flag poles and flags/compas has been added on the superstructure.
Each motor draws 6amps at full power, I have measured the speed from one point to another at a spacing of 60mtrs, and timed at 15 seconds, but this is a bit fast for this boat as she starts to plane out of the water.
We sail her at New Brighton lake on the wirral most wednesdays. As the weather is now a bit cool I have just purchased a simular model to this at 1:48 scale 110ft island class USCG Patrol boat so I can look at them both in action when the weather picks up. Anyone wanting info can contact me via this website.
Following a significant amount of restoration this old and original Aerokits 36" Fireboat was rebuilt from a wreck to a nice, working model. A full (new) white metal fittings kit provided all the deck clutter. Like my Sea Commander, featured elsewhere on this site, I have considerably lightened much of the internal structure. it's powerd by an 800 electric motor and runs on 12v. Performance is OK with 2 channel 27Mhz radio. Perhaps the best bit is a superb triple V12 sound unit (speaker under an additional hatch behind the wheelhouse). it sounds great on the water although someone did wonder why, having gone to all the trouble to remove the old unsilenced I/C engine and go for a quiet electric unit, why then add the noise back??. The pic of the boat underway has the battery externally in the rear compartment whilst doing sonme tests. it runs at Warminster Model Boat Club, Wiltshire.
{"text":"Following a significant amount of restoration this old and original Aerokits 36\" Fireboat was rebuilt from a wreck to a nice, working model. A full (new) white metal fittings kit provided all the deck clutter. Like my Sea Commander, featured elsewhere on this site, I have considerably lightened much of the internal structure. it's powerd by an 800 electric motor and runs on 12v. Performance is OK with 2 channel 27Mhz radio. Perhaps the best bit is a superb triple V12 sound unit (speaker under an additional hatch behind the wheelhouse). it sounds great on the water although someone did wonder why, having gone to all the trouble to remove the old unsilenced I/C engine and go for a quiet electric unit, why then add the noise back??. The pic of the boat underway has the battery externally in the rear compartment whilst doing sonme tests. it runs at Warminster Model Boat Club, Wiltshire.","subject":"Aerokits 36\" Fireboat","media":[{"id":"1228068339","name":"1228068339.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1228068339/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1228068339/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"}],"youtubeUrl":""}
Following a significant amount of restoration this old and original Aerokits 36" Fireboat was rebuilt from a wreck to a nice, working model. A full (new) white metal fittings kit provided all the deck clutter. Like my Sea Commander, featured elsewhere on this site, I have considerably lightened much of the internal structure. it's powerd by an 800 electric motor and runs on 12v. Performance is OK with 2 channel 27Mhz radio. Perhaps the best bit is a superb triple V12 sound unit (speaker under an additional hatch behind the wheelhouse). it sounds great on the water although someone did wonder why, having gone to all the trouble to remove the old unsilenced I/C engine and go for a quiet electric unit, why then add the noise back??. The pic of the boat underway has the battery externally in the rear compartment whilst doing sonme tests. it runs at Warminster Model Boat Club, Wiltshire.
This Sea Comander was another disaster, rescued from fleabay a couple of years ago as a 50s/60s bare shell. Whilst the hull was basically sound, the model needed considerable surgery. I resisted the temptation to cover it in modern fittings and have kept it original looking. Power is an electric 800 motor on 12 volts with 2 channel 27Mhz R/C. Performance is reasonable, particularly as I have lightened the original internal structure considerably. A big 7AH battery lasts for ages but for speed I use a small 2.5AH one. Owner sails at Warminster Model Boat Club, Wiltshire.
{"text":"This Sea Comander was another disaster, rescued from fleabay a couple of years ago as a 50s/60s bare shell. Whilst the hull was basically sound, the model needed considerable surgery. I resisted the temptation to cover it in modern fittings and have kept it original looking. Power is an electric 800 motor on 12 volts with 2 channel 27Mhz R/C. Performance is reasonable, particularly as I have lightened the original internal structure considerably. A big 7AH battery lasts for ages but for speed I use a small 2.5AH one. Owner sails at Warminster Model Boat Club, Wiltshire.","subject":"Aerokits Sea Commander","media":[{"id":"1228066413","name":"1228066413.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1228066413/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1228066413/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"},{"id":"1228066414","name":"1228066414.jpg","caption":"","url":"https://hobby.land/media/1228066414/l","thumbUrl":"https://hobby.land/media/1228066414/s","isImage":true,"ext":"jpg"}],"youtubeUrl":""}
This Sea Comander was another disaster, rescued from fleabay a couple of years ago as a 50s/60s bare shell. Whilst the hull was basically sound, the model needed considerable surgery. I resisted the temptation to cover it in modern fittings and have kept it original looking. Power is an electric 800 motor on 12 volts with 2 channel 27Mhz R/C. Performance is reasonable, particularly as I have lightened the original internal structure considerably. A big 7AH battery lasts for ages but for speed I use a small 2.5AH one. Owner sails at Warminster Model Boat Club, Wiltshire.
Interesting thought. I don't think there was a specific finish and most of the advertisements I have seen for the kits in period were of course in black and white. The only consistency in the various advertisements appears to show the boat with very light colour (white?) hull sides and the cabin roofs in the same colour. Deck, windscreen surround, handrails and cabin sides are in a light wood finish. The lower hull colour is dark and I always assumed red or blue. Not much help I'm afraid but it does look good. Peter
Interesting thought. I don't think there was a specific finish and most of the advertisements I have seen for the kits in period were of course in black and white. The only consistency in the various advertisements appears to show the boat with very light colour (white?) hull sides and the cabin roofs in the same colour. Deck, windscreen surround, handrails and cabin sides are in a light wood finish. The lower hull colour is dark and I always assumed red or blue. Not much help I'm afraid but it does look good. Peter
Here is a video of our boat (Vigilant star) sailing at New Brighton boat lake on the wirral every Wednesday.
The boat is a semiscale (Coast Guard Cutter), designed by Hal-Harrison in Marine Modelling. I have doubled its size and put two 540/1 Mfa motors in, driving quanta 45mm props. She is 36" length 8" Bow, runs of one 12 volt 7Ah SLA battery.
It is made from Balsa/Fibreglass resin. Runs well no leaks to date. Gerry.
{"text":"Here is a video of our boat (Vigilant star) sailing at New Brighton boat lake on the wirral every Wednesday.\r\n\r\nThe boat is a semiscale (Coast Guard Cutter), designed by Hal-Harrison in Marine Modelling. I have doubled its size and put two 540/1 Mfa motors in, driving quanta 45mm props. She is 36\" length 8\" Bow, runs of one 12 volt 7Ah SLA battery.\r\n\r\nIt is made from Balsa/Fibreglass resin. Runs well no leaks to date. Gerry.","subject":"Vigilant Star owned by Gerry","media":[],"youtubeUrl":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0yunBLKd9c"}
Here is a video of our boat (Vigilant star) sailing at New Brighton boat lake on the wirral every Wednesday.
The boat is a semiscale (Coast Guard Cutter), designed by Hal-Harrison in Marine Modelling. I have doubled its size and put two 540/1 Mfa motors in, driving quanta 45mm props. She is 36" length 8" Bow, runs of one 12 volt 7Ah SLA battery.
It is made from Balsa/Fibreglass resin. Runs well no leaks to date. Gerry.
Unfortunately I cant remember the ratio, I think it was 2:1 from memory. it was later converted to brushless. Has not been run for two years since the bigger brother fireboat came along. I keep thinking just put a brushed motor back in it, and have plodding speed, it looks silly doing all that porpoising, and the bigger brother can give me my speed fix 😁