Now up and running again, with new 25A M'tronics ESC and smaller 35mm S prop she went well yesterday at Crealy.
I managed to get these pics of the monitors in action
( a bit limited as I was alone and operating the TX and camera together! )
Regards
Chris
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Now up and running again, with new 25A M'tronics ESC and smaller 35mm S prop she went well yesterday at Crealy.
I managed to get these pics of the monitors in action
( a bit limited as I was alone and operating the TX and camera together! )
Regards
Chris
34" Fireboat
I tried out my new motor arrangement, ( Graupner speed 600 8.4v motor with a single 9.6v battery pack as recommended by dbninja ) in my Fireboat today. A bit choppy but all went very well at just above half throttle then I began to get braver and added on the power to be met by clouds of smoke and a truly blown ESC. ( See FORUM under Hong Kong ESC ) The new Fire Monitors by Peter HS93 also worked fine using a Vauxhall Astra washer pump, I'd hope to get pics but the sudden halt intervened!
Regards Chris
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34" Fireboat
I tried out my new motor arrangement, ( Graupner speed 600 8.4v motor with a single 9.6v battery pack as recommended by dbninja ) in my Fireboat today. A bit choppy but all went very well at just above half throttle then I began to get braver and added on the power to be met by clouds of smoke and a truly blown ESC. ( See FORUM under Hong Kong ESC ) The new Fire Monitors by Peter HS93 also worked fine using a Vauxhall Astra washer pump, I'd hope to get pics but the sudden halt intervened!
HI Roger
My monitors were kindly produced some time ago by another member of this site who was unfortunately at the last request unable to make any more. You might like to have a go making suitably scaled down versions in the method shown by Pete Harvey on his 46" Fireboat restoration on his website ( link in the 'Useful Links' part of this site ) my initial effort was to try drilling out some white metal fittings- this only proved the soft cheese is probably a more suitable material!
Water is pumped to the monitors using an ebay sourced Astra windscreen washer pump which works fine on my 9.6v setup.
Good luck
Chris
HI Roger
My monitors were kindly produced some time ago by another member of this site who was unfortunately at the last request unable to make any more. You might like to have a go making suitably scaled down versions in the method shown by Pete Harvey on his 46" Fireboat restoration on his website ( link in the 'Useful Links' part of this site ) my initial effort was to try drilling out some white metal fittings- this only proved the soft cheese is probably a more suitable material!
Water is pumped to the monitors using an ebay sourced Astra windscreen washer pump which works fine on my 9.6v setup.
Good luck
Chris
HI again
Just to mention that Monitors for the 34" boat are available separately from the 'Online Shop'section of this site. ( Don't think they are working however )
Chris
HI again
Just to mention that Monitors for the 34" boat are available separately from the 'Online Shop'section of this site. ( Don't think they are working however )
Chris
I tried out my new motor arrangement, ( Graupner speed 600 8.4v motor with a single 9.6v battery pack as recommended by dbninja ) in my 34" Fireboat today. All went very well at just above half throttle then I began to get braver and added on the power to be met by clouds of smoke and a truly blown ESC.
( See FORUM under Hong Kong ESC )
The Fire Monitors also worked Fine using a Vauxhall Astra washer pump, I'd hope to get pics but the sudden halt intervened!
Regards
Chris
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I tried out my new motor arrangement, ( Graupner speed 600 8.4v motor with a single 9.6v battery pack as recommended by dbninja ) in my 34" Fireboat today. All went very well at just above half throttle then I began to get braver and added on the power to be met by clouds of smoke and a truly blown ESC.
( See FORUM under Hong Kong ESC )
The Fire Monitors also worked Fine using a Vauxhall Astra washer pump, I'd hope to get pics but the sudden halt intervened!
Regards
Chris
A Few Pics of my 1/16th Fireboat now fitted with working Fire Monitors (superbly and very kindly produced by PeterHS93)
Ready for testing ASAP - Now I need some 1/16th Crew!
Chris
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A Few Pics of my 1/16th Fireboat now fitted with working Fire Monitors (superbly and very kindly produced by PeterHS93)
Ready for testing ASAP - Now I need some 1/16th Crew!
HI Colin & Chris,
There is some great work on here. I have just purchased an old mostly built 46'' Tender and want to bring it back to life. I am new to RC stuff but want to do the best scale job I can. Any drawings would be a great help to me as I don't have any and the boat has no fittings on board at all. Where could I get hold of some air cowls at this scale, pumps, pipes lights etc...
Any help would be very greatfully received.
Regards
Dean
HI Colin & Chris,
There is some great work on here. I have just purchased an old mostly built 46'' Tender and want to bring it back to life. I am new to RC stuff but want to do the best scale job I can. Any drawings would be a great help to me as I don't have any and the boat has no fittings on board at all. Where could I get hold of some air cowls at this scale, pumps, pipes lights etc...
Any help would be very greatfully received.
Regards
Dean
HI Stonemonkey. I have a spare set of plans for the 46 inch boat which I can copy and send you. You can also get fittings set for these bigger boats from Lesro models. E mail me on (Email Removed - PM Only) if you want the plans.
HI Stonemonkey. I have a spare set of plans for the 46 inch boat which I can copy and send you. You can also get fittings set for these bigger boats from Lesro models. E mail me on (Email Removed - PM Only) if you want the plans.
more pics of my boat showing motor and battory position and the fire monitors
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My Sun Tug MK25 version, originally adapted from a Lesro Sun Tug Kit, actually still being built [not quite yet complete] but seaworthy enough to get some testing time in the water. it has more than enough power to haul my dusseldorf along when the batteries are flat after some time sailing, so rather than pull the fireboat out, decided to let the tug do some work.
Powered by a hectoperm motor with 3:1 gearbox,twin 6v gel batteries,water pump to operate the fire monitors,engine sound, nav lights, interior lights [cabins] rotating radar scanner,
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My Sun Tug MK25 version, originally adapted from a Lesro Sun Tug Kit, actually still being built [not quite yet complete] but seaworthy enough to get some testing time in the water. it has more than enough power to haul my dusseldorf along when the batteries are flat after some time sailing, so rather than pull the fireboat out, decided to let the tug do some work.
Powered by a hectoperm motor with 3:1 gearbox,twin 6v gel batteries,water pump to operate the fire monitors,engine sound, nav lights, interior lights [cabins] rotating radar scanner,
My own Dusseldorf,powered by origninal robbe navy direckts as these give more than sufficient power to propel the boat at a reasonable speed, all fire monitors operate to fire water and rotate, nav lights, radar, engine sound and fog horn.
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My own Dusseldorf,powered by origninal robbe navy direckts as these give more than sufficient power to propel the boat at a reasonable speed, all fire monitors operate to fire water and rotate, nav lights, radar, engine sound and fog horn.
HI All,
This is an update,weather seemed ok so tried her out,very Impressed,got right up on the plane.Handling not that good think a bigger rudder is needed.
Running an 850 torpedo motor on 12volt battery.
Only problem was a leak,water running up prop tube so have removed and re-greased ready to try again.
Fire monitors missing hoping somebody can help.
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HI All,
This is an update,weather seemed ok so tried her out,very Impressed,got right up on the plane.Handling not that good think a bigger rudder is needed.
Running an 850 torpedo motor on 12volt battery.
Only problem was a leak,water running up prop tube so have removed and re-greased ready to try again.
Fire monitors missing hoping somebody can help.
very nice boat! I have two of these 93/94 thay are a very nice model.
I did try uploading photos of them to the site. Anyway fire monitors do some times come up on ebay for sale. if not try model dockyard or westbourne model ships web sites. Hope this helps from a new member Albert.
very nice boat! I have two of these 93/94 thay are a very nice model.
I did try uploading photos of them to the site. Anyway fire monitors do some times come up on ebay for sale. if not try model dockyard or westbourne model ships web sites. Hope this helps from a new member Albert.
HI Boat looking good. From your previous post I see that the model was built in the 1950's. is it possible that an I.c. motor was originally used as they were common during that period? it is possible that the shaft and/or bearings will be well worn. Grease will help but not cure the problem and will add drag and increase motor current (amps), thus reducing your sailing time. I suggest you remove the prop shaft and see if it is worn where the bearings are. if so you may be able to obtain a new complete prop shaft of the same size. if the inner shaft is is a nice fit in the original just substitute the shaft. if the original bearings are no good replace with the new bearings from the replacement shaft. They can be teased out with a blunt knife and gently use of pliers. if you hace access to a lathe or a friend with one, you could just lap the shaft and make new bearings. Good luck dave
HI Boat looking good. From your previous post I see that the model was built in the 1950's. is it possible that an I.c. motor was originally used as they were common during that period? it is possible that the shaft and/or bearings will be well worn. Grease will help but not cure the problem and will add drag and increase motor current (amps), thus reducing your sailing time. I suggest you remove the prop shaft and see if it is worn where the bearings are. if so you may be able to obtain a new complete prop shaft of the same size. if the inner shaft is is a nice fit in the original just substitute the shaft. if the original bearings are no good replace with the new bearings from the replacement shaft. They can be teased out with a blunt knife and gently use of pliers. if you hace access to a lathe or a friend with one, you could just lap the shaft and make new bearings. Good luck dave
This model was built from scratch except for the fiberglass hull, using styrene. The drives are Graupner VSD's and the 10 fire monitors are powered by BMW windshield washer pumps. The radio is a Spektrum DH 6 with a twin stick modification and fitted with a switch 8 to individually operate the monitors.
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This model was built from scratch except for the fiberglass hull, using styrene. The drives are Graupner VSD's and the 10 fire monitors are powered by BMW windshield washer pumps. The radio is a Spektrum DH 6 with a twin stick modification and fitted with a switch 8 to individually operate the monitors.
BRAVO ZULU! Again, very nice. The multifunction of your boat is great and lends alot of ideas. I'm definitely gonna look into the Windy City fireboat.
I once saw her up close when on vacation in Chicago in 97.
BRAVO ZULU! Again, very nice. The multifunction of your boat is great and lends alot of ideas. I'm definitely gonna look into the Windy City fireboat.
I once saw her up close when on vacation in Chicago in 97.
This boat is a model of the Judge McCombs which is the fire boat in Hamilton Ontario Canada. The model was built by Don Hodgson of the Confederation Marine Modellers of Hamilton. Scatch built with about 700 hours, has 3 water pumps run by 12 volt.
The boat started out as the tug Betty-Bess in 1947, in 1950 a small fire pump was installed driven by a separate engine, in 1972 the extra 2 monitors where installed. it will now pump a 1000 gpm. Enclosed find 3 pictures of the model and 1 picture of the real thing.
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This boat is a model of the Judge McCombs which is the fire boat in Hamilton Ontario Canada. The model was built by Don Hodgson of the Confederation Marine Modellers of Hamilton. Scatch built with about 700 hours, has 3 water pumps run by 12 volt.
The boat started out as the tug Betty-Bess in 1947, in 1950 a small fire pump was installed driven by a separate engine, in 1972 the extra 2 monitors where installed. it will now pump a 1000 gpm. Enclosed find 3 pictures of the model and 1 picture of the real thing.
This is a model of a sidewall hovercraft fire and rescue boat (Hovermarine HM218) built by James Ramsey.
This started its life as a broken hand vacuum cleaner. Opened up there are two squirrel cage fans. He obtained pictures, sale data, amd small GA drawings from a Hovercraft Museum and was able to scratch build.
It has twin motors operated through mixer and two ESCs, steerable fire monitors plus nav lights, deck lights, flasher, fire pump, siren, rear mast lights and serch lights operated from the transmitter via a Digiserv unit.
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This is a model of a sidewall hovercraft fire and rescue boat (Hovermarine HM218) built by James Ramsey.
This started its life as a broken hand vacuum cleaner. Opened up there are two squirrel cage fans. He obtained pictures, sale data, amd small GA drawings from a Hovercraft Museum and was able to scratch build.
It has twin motors operated through mixer and two ESCs, steerable fire monitors plus nav lights, deck lights, flasher, fire pump, siren, rear mast lights and serch lights operated from the transmitter via a Digiserv unit.
